Boopa1219 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 The Sox have the top pick in the 2017 MLB Draft after finishing the season with a record of 78-84. The last ten players picked with the 12th overall pick: 2016: Jason Groome 2015: Josh Naylor 2014: Kodi Medeiros 2013: DJ Peterson 2012: Gavin Cecchini 2011: Taylor Jungmann 2010: Yasmani Grandal 2009: Aaron Crow 2008: Jemile Weeks 2007: Matt Dominguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Can't wait to discuss some names in the coming months. Hopefully we got a good prospect to fall to us due to some teams reaching on players or not wanting to risk trying to sign some of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) Can't wait to discuss some names in the coming months. Hopefully we got a good prospect to fall to us due to some teams reaching on players or not wanting to risk trying to sign some of these guys. Thats bound to happen and we're already on it at Reddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) Hopefully we got a good prospect to fall to us due to some teams reaching on players or not wanting to risk trying to sign some of these guys. It happened in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Is the 12th pick protected? Meaning could Hahn sign a free agent who was tendered a qualifying offer without losing the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Oct 6, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) Is the 12th pick protected? Meaning could Hahn sign a free agent who was tendered a qualifying offer without losing the pick. No it's not, Top 10 are protected so the Sox just fell short of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Oct 6, 2016 -> 04:26 PM) No it's not, Top 10 are protected so the Sox just fell short of that. I honestly think the top 20 picks or so should be protected. If you didn't make the playoffs, you should have a protected draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 4, 2016 -> 09:26 PM) The Sox have the top pick in the 2017 MLB Draft after finishing the season with a record of 78-84. The last ten players picked with the 12th overall pick: 2016: Jason Groome 2015: Josh Naylor 2014: Kodi Medeiros 2013: DJ Peterson 2012: Gavin Cecchini 2011: Taylor Jungmann 2010: Yasmani Grandal 2009: Aaron Crow 2008: Jemile Weeks 2007: Matt Dominguez This list doesn't look too good, but you never know. Sale was picked 13th after all. Hopefully the Sox target a bat with their first pick if at all possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) I honestly think the top 20 picks or so should be protected. If you didn't make the playoffs, you should have a protected draft pick. The MLBPA does not agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 8, 2016 -> 06:43 AM) The MLBPA does not agree with you. They are stupid though because it would likely result in more $$ being offered for players with QO attached to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Good chance it's another Top 100 Prospect immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 7, 2016 -> 12:17 PM) This list doesn't look too good, but you never know. Sale was picked 13th after all. Hopefully the Sox target a bat with their first pick if at all possible. No, I hope it's the best player available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 https://minorleaguemadhouse.com/2016/10/03/...season-edition/ Here is a mock done by a fiend and a collaborator at the subreddit. He has the Sox drafting Jordon Adell, who happens to be my favorite player in this draft class. Here is what Fangraphs had to say about him: Jordon Adell, OF, Ballard HS (KY) Height: 6’3, Weight: 200, Commitment: Louisville Jordon (or “Jo”) Adell has the best hit/power combination among high schoolers in the 2017 class and has a non-zero chance of playing center field. If that sounds like a player worthy of consideration in the draft’s top 5-10 picks, that’s because it is. But Adell is not predestined for center field. Though he has posted 70-grade run times in the 60-yard dash (6.47), I didn’t get an in-game run time to first base better than 4.4 (40 on the scale) from him all summer. Why the discrepancy? Well, the quality of Adell’s contact this summer was so good that it often didn’t necessitate a full-effort sprint to first base, and it’s possible I just never saw a good time to first. It’s also possible that, because of how hard Adell rotates toward the third-base line through contact, he just doesn’t get good jumps down the line toward first and his times are artificially slow. Scouts with whom I’ve spoken fall into two camps regarding Adell’s future position. Some think there’s a slight chance he somehow manages to be passable in center while acknowledging that it’s unlikely for him to stay there, while others think he surely ends up in a corner. I can’t find anyone confident he remains, long term, in center field and instead the industry (myself included) think Adell and his plus-plus arm end up in right field. It matters not. Adell’s bat profiles comfortably in a corner, too. He has 7 bat speed, can move the barrel around the zone and absolutely punishes everything on the inner half. While I think Adell’s approach can get pull-happy, he has the physical skills to be a future plus hitter. Adell peppered Waveland Ave with baseballs during the Under Armour home-run derby in Chicago then won the Area Code derby and homered in a game there as well. He has plus raw power and arguably projects for more than that. High-school prospects with that kind of offensive profile often go in the top 10, regardless of where they profile on the defensive spectrum. I think Adell comes off the board very early next June and I don’t expect his commitment to Louisville to be a significant obstacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) I wonder if this pick will still be unprotected at the time of the draft. To be fair, why should the White Sox have to surrender the 12th pick to sign someone, when the Cubs would have to surrender the 30th to sign the same player? At the very least all non playoff teams should have their 1st pick protected IMO. Edited October 18, 2016 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) I wonder if this pick will still be unprotected at the time of the draft. To be fair, why should the White Sox have to surrender the 12th pick to sign someone, when the Cubs would have to surrender the 30th to sign the same player? At the very least all non playoff teams should have their 1st pick protected IMO. Why wouldn't it be? CBA changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) Why wouldn't it be? CBA changes? I am thinking free agent comp will be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 06:40 PM) I am thinking free agent comp will be an issue. Doesn't the agreement start in 2017? I would think any changes to compensation would start next offseason due to free agents potentially signing , accepting/rejecting QOs before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 06:50 PM) Doesn't the agreement start in 2017? I would think any changes to compensation would start next offseason due to free agents potentially signing , accepting/rejecting QOs before then. Manfred said it would be natural to wrap u the negotiations on the new agreement before free agency begins so everyone knows what the rules will be. There most likely will be something done with the QO system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Keith Law and Crawford's 2017 Draft top 30: http://www.espn.com/blog/mlb-draft/insider...bdraftprospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Manfred said it would be natural to wrap u the negotiations on the new agreement before free agency begins so everyone knows what the rules will be. There most likely will be something done with the QO system. Seems like the pick will still go to the team that loses, but the buying team won't lose the pick (which does slightly hurt competitive balance, imo, since it is more likely the higher market teams are buying and now they get to buy and keep the pick). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 The Sox move up to the 11th overall pick in the draft, with the Rockies signing Ian Desmond, who had a Qualifying Offer attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 J.J Schwarz and JB Bukauskas would look really good in Sox uniforms. Those are my early favorites for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I really like Jake Burger, JJ Schwarz and Brendan McKay. I think it would be awesome to draft Jake Burger in '17 and Seth Beer in '18 the promos write themselves. I've read a lazy comp of burger to Bryant so we'll see. Anyone got a hot take on Beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:18 PM) I really like Jake Burger, JJ Schwarz and Brendan McKay. I think it would be awesome to draft Jake Burger in '17 and Seth Beer in '18 the promos write themselves. I've read a lazy comp of burger to Bryant so we'll see. Anyone got a hot take on Beer? #CheerForBeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 I'm hoping for Kyle Wright from Vanderbilt. He's 6'4 220, has a mid 90s fastball and a slider. Here's some video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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