hi8is Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 08:14 PM) https://www.yahoo.com/sports/top-ranked-col...-235801741.html Top Oregon State pitcher outed as convicted sex offender from when he was just 15. Wow... molested a girl for two years when she was between the ages of 4 and 6. I'm all for second chances but I also see sex offenders in a very low way. Hope he has a good life helping people and staying on the right path... also hope he never plays in the majors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 11:39 PM) Wow... molested a girl for two years when she was between the ages of 4 and 6. I'm all for second chances but I also see sex offenders in a very low way. Hope he has a good life helping people and staying on the right path... also hope he never plays in the majors. It was a family member of his, whether that makes it better or worse, I have no idea. Whether it matters, I'm sure it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Jed Hoyer was on 670 the score earlier and basically either confirmed or added their name on the list that they took him off their board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) New BA Mock. Kendall again. Big drop is Pavin Smith falling to 19. My guy White goes ahead of him. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-...9kUVeiEoSzSo.97 Also notes the Sox would consider Faedo, Bukauskus, Adell if available. Edited June 9, 2017 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 http://www.athleticsnation.com/2017/6/7/15...w-hanging-fruit Here's an interesting take on Beck...all centered on inability to hit pitches low in the strike zone. Then says he still likes Beck over Haseley, Smith, etc. But wants them to draft Brent Rooker at six. What? http://www.athleticsnation.com/2017/6/5/15...welcome-oakland Makes long and detailed case for Rooker here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Jerry brewer knows a lot about the baseball swing but he is not a scout and doesn't consider age, position, body projection, defense and other stuff that scouts do. He is an excellent hitting coach but I wouldn't take his word for gospel when it comes to scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Wonder if he had any comments about hitters the White Sox drafted...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 I just realized I'm going to be on a flight for most of draft day this year. I'm going to rage if it has spotty WiFi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Don't get David Dao'ed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 New Callis mock. Kendall again. So much consensus. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/235304580/ro...picid=151437456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Piliere has a mock up. Premium only though. https://d1baseball.com/premium/2017-mlb-dra...mock-draft-2-0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) New Callis mock. Kendall again. So much consensus. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/235304580/ro...picid=151437456 Gross. Way too much swing and miss in his game. Don't want another toolsy athlete that will be great if we can teach him how to hit. I can just see him becoming another Mitchell or Hawkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 09:59 AM) New Callis mock. Kendall again. So much consensus. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/235304580/ro...picid=151437456 Gonna be interesting to see some of the reactions on this board if the sox pass on Bukauskas for Kendall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jun 8, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) There are currently only 13 1b in the league with an OPS over .800. Only 11 last year at the end of the season. I think many on this board are too worried about position value over getting the best bat available. Frank Thomas was 1B only, and not a good one. I think that pick at 7 worked out well. If they can hit, who cares? Besides, with the launch angle becoming a big thing, I think infield defense importance is going to start dropping a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) Gonna be interesting to see some of the reactions on this board if the sox pass on Bukauskas for Kendall. Seems his regionals implosion scared some teams off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 10:45 AM) Frank Thomas was 1B only, and not a good one. I think that pick at 7 worked out well. If they can hit, who cares? Besides, with the launch angle becoming a big thing, I think infield defense importance is going to start dropping a bit. If we take a 1b that high I want them to be saying it's because he has a frank thomas/hof bat. If their ceiling is top 10 1b bat, there is just too much room that if they come under that projection at all they are fairly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) Gonna be interesting to see some of the reactions on this board if the sox pass on Bukauskas for Kendall. I think the organization feels that the #11 pick is likely best spent on a position player this year, although Bukauskas would be interesting if still on the board at #11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Two questions for people who are more familiar with some of the draft prospects: 1. Concerning Jeren Kendall's swing-and-miss issues: Does he have a good hit tool but happens to make a lot of outs on Ks (like Moncada), or is it that his hit tool isn't good and thus he strikes out a lot? 2. Taking out defense, who has the better overall bat: Evan White or Pavin Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 11:05 AM) Two questions for people who are more familiar with some of the draft prospects: 1. Concerning Jeren Kendall's swing-and-miss issues: Does he have a good hit tool but happens to make a lot of outs on Ks (like Moncada), or is it that his hit tool isn't good and thus he strikes out a lot? 2. Taking out defense, who has the better overall bat: Evan White or Pavin Smith? Can only answer 1 - lots of debate. Law has said some teams consider him a 30 hit tool because of his swing and miss. Others would say he's like a Moncada (but I think TA is more helpful as Moncada has a fantastic eye and walks a lot), where he will always strike out, but he'll have good power, speed and defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 09:13 AM) Gross. Way too much swing and miss in his game. Don't want another toolsy athlete that will be great if we can teach him how to hit. I can just see him becoming another Mitchell or Hawkins. I agree with you, entirely. From an economic perspective; position players who can play good defense and have speed, can always be acquired relatively inexpensively. It is the middle of the order, good hitters whose contracts create a strain on the payroll. Kendall does not profile as that kind of player. My preference is for a potentially big run producer, ideally from the left side, regardless of the position they play. I know some of you are not high on Pavin Smith, but if he were still there, I can't imagine that the Sox would take Kendall over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 My opinion means nothing, but since this is a Sox forum, I really hope we choose between: Beck/Royce Lewis/Haseley/Hiura/Warmoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 01:02 PM) My opinion means nothing, but since this is a Sox forum, I really hope we choose between: Beck/Royce Lewis/Haseley/Hiura/Warmoth why not burger? and do you think lewis drops that far as the top prep bat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) why not burger? and do you think lewis drops that far as the top prep bat? I would take Burger too. I don't think Lewis falls, but one of the mocks today alluded to that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 9, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) My preference is for a potentially big run producer, ideally from the left side, regardless of the position they play... Reading this I thought of Pavin before reading the rest of your post. I just hope they take the best available bat regardless of position or age. At this point my board goes: Haseley Smith Beck Burger Kendall Adell Edited June 9, 2017 by hi8is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 From Keith Law's latest chat: Andy 1:38 It seems like Kendall has a really high ceiling, and a seemingly more possible floor of never making the majors. Does he have like a Cameron Maybin middle, ending up as a good fielder with huge Ks, but still a serviceable player? Keith Law 1:39 That's a reasonable point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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