southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 28m28 minutes ago White Sox RHP James Shields will officially opt in to the final two years of his deal, source confirms to @SBNation. Was a formality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 This goes into the "least surprising news of the day" file. The only thing that we can hope for is that some time off rejuvenated his arm a bit, but he'll most likely still be a bum either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Darn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 *scrambles to find a 'slow clap' vine* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) It fascinates me that the Cubs can spend $184 million on a bum like Heyward and not miss a beat while the Sox only owe Shields approximately 1/7th of that and are struggling big time with payroll. Edited October 27, 2016 by ChiSoxFanMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) It fascinates me that the Cubs can spend $184 million on a bum like Heyward and not miss a beat while the Sox only owe Shields approximately 1/7th of that and are struggling big time with payroll. One of those organizations is a lot better at talent evaluation and development than the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Great, the Sox should have a lot of "big games" for him to pitch in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:25 PM) One of those organizations is a lot better at talent evaluation and development than the other. Ironic that we are talking about a $184 million bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:50 PM) Ironic that we are talking about a $184 million bust. It certainly would be if you completely ignore how the rest of their team is built. Every team that's willing to spend at that level is going to make a few mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I'd be surprised if Heyward isn't back to himself next year. Whether that's worth all that money is certainly debatable but I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't have a comeback year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 11:11 AM) I'd be surprised if Heyward isn't back to himself next year. Whether that's worth all that money is certainly debatable but I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't have a comeback year. Yeah, I agree. Just because he stunk up the joint this year doesn't mean the entire signing is a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 01:12 PM) Yeah, I agree. Just because he stunk up the joint this year doesn't mean the entire signing is a bust. Are we talking about James Shileds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatnom Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) It fascinates me that the Cubs can spend $184 million on a bum like Heyward and not miss a beat while the Sox only owe Shields approximately 1/7th of that and are struggling big time with payroll. If we had a way of acquiring talent other than by spending money, the Shields contract wouldn't actually be much of an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 11:28 AM) Are we talking about James Shileds? No. I fully believe he will stink up the joint for many years to come. Edited October 27, 2016 by iamshack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 180 IP of 4.80 ERA is all the Sox can ask for from Shields. If they can give him that, he's worth his deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Not if Tatis surfaces as a legitimate prospect in then next two years. I still don't get how Hahn got talked into that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Not even really a question. "James, do you wanna go ahead and have $44 million, regardless of how crappy your performance is?" "Yes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:40 PM) 180 IP of 4.80 ERA is all the Sox can ask for from Shields. If they can give him that, he's worth his deal. I guess pitching is scarcer then even I thought if these numbers make him "worth" anything. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) I guess pitching is scarcer then even I thought if these numbers make him "worth" anything. Mark Almost any pitcher that can give you 180 innings of even mediocre performance is worth something. Those numbers would be right in line with what Danks did in 2014. He ranked 81st that year among starters with a 1.7 fWAR. Doesn't seem that impressive but considering there are 150 starters at any given time in MLB he definitely had some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's amazing to me that this trade did not cause any of our front office seats to warm but Reinsdorf has such PTSD over Jaime Navarro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 John Lamb dfa'd by Reds. Can't have enough arms right? Maybe Coop can fix him and make him a reliable lefty reliever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 03:27 PM) It's amazing to me that this trade did not cause any of our front office seats to warm but Reinsdorf has such PTSD over Jaime Navarro. Because our front office bases this on memories of the former good player. We figure we can dumpster dive and get lightning in a bottle. Member when James Shields was good. I memba. Memba the 1990s Indians. Memba Griffey Jr. Edited October 27, 2016 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I see Shields wants to make a run at the single season ERA record. Make him earn his money. Let him achieve his place in the history books for futility. No more phantom DL stints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) It fascinates me that the Cubs can spend $184 million on a bum like Heyward and not miss a beat while the Sox only owe Shields approximately 1/7th of that and are struggling big time with payroll. One team trades 1.5 years for Samardzija for their SS of the next decade. Another team, coming off of 72 wins, then trades (a SS with 27 homers) for 1 year of Samardzija. And about 5 more contrasting moves like that, plus a series of useless signings explains some things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Oct 27, 2016 -> 01:08 PM) It certainly would be if you completely ignore how the rest of their team is built. Every team that's willing to spend at that level is going to make a few mistakes. How much did they blow on Edwin Jackson? It helps when you lose 96 games and 3 million people still show up. Edited October 27, 2016 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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