NorthSideSox72 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Sounds crazy, right? Thanks to IowaSoxFan on SoxTalk bringing up the idea, after I thought about it, it's really not that crazy. Here is the case for it. Yes? No? Not yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:07 AM) Sounds crazy, right? Thanks to IowaSoxFan on SoxTalk bringing up the idea, after I thought about it, it's really not that crazy. Here is the case for it. Yes? No? Not yet? Give him a few months/a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Didn't ever realize this guy was still around. It wouldn't hurt I guess since he hasn't succeeded at anything else in the organization. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 This makes way more sense than releasing the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13th overall pick. I hate that this team hasn't been able to evaluate talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) 13th overall pick. I hate that this team hasn't been able to evaluate talent. A handful of guys drafted in front of him, and handful of guys drafted within the next 10 after him were busts too. Every team has draft busts...and thankfully, the Sox haven't had many of them since Hawkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 He's 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) A handful of guys drafted in front of him, and handful of guys drafted within the next 10 after him were busts too. Every team has draft busts...and thankfully, the Sox haven't had many of them since Hawkins. True and that makes me feel a little better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 08:23 PM) A handful of guys drafted in front of him, and handful of guys drafted within the next 10 after him were busts too. Every team has draft busts...and thankfully, the Sox haven't had many of them since Hawkins. Rumor was Sox were gonna take Stroman and had a deal in place. Rockies took Dahl instead of Hawkins and changed everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) 13th overall pick. I hate that this team hasn't been able to evaluate talent. Somehow trading Sale or Q is gonna change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I also suggest converting Avisail Garcia to pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) Do you care to offer why his prospect status may still exist? Age is no argument for him. He's failed year/year and has made no improvements to his pitfalls since he was 19. His profile offers him no utility as a complementary piece. Unless he starts recognizing some spin and increases his contact rate significantly he will be done in the org within the next two years. Probably a bust either way. I'd say he has better odds of figuring out how to become a higher OBP hitter at expense of some of his power versus learning how to become a pitcher while already at the pro level. Matt Davidson got a 3rd season in AAA after two awful ones in his age 24 and 25 season comparable to what Hawkins did in AA in his age 22 2016 season. I'd give him another year or two to show something with the bat. Edited November 3, 2016 by soxforlife05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) 13th overall pick. I hate that this team hasn't been able to evaluate talent. That was before Hahn and pre-Hostletler/Paddy. A lot has changed in the org. Give credit where credit is due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 05:45 PM) . Unless he starts recognizing some spin and increases his contact rate significantly he will be done in the org within the next two years. You know, I used to take the Front office @ their word, & believe that a player's hit tool could be improved over time. However, after seeing a cavalcade of Sox prospects utterly fail to 'learn how to make contact,' I now believe that a player's hit tool is largely unimproveable. After all, we're all still waiting for Jared Mitchell, Jordan Danks, Courtney Hawkins, Keon Barnum, Matt Davidson, Micker Adolfo, Corey Zangari, and many many others either 'learn to make more contact,' OR 'strike out less.' After watching literally ZERO of the 'strikeout commandos' among the Sox prospects make it, I doubt that it is even possible to happen. To the point of this thread, I don't even know why a position change hasn't already happened. But then, throw that into the pile of head-scratching decisions by this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) Rumor was Sox were gonna take Stroman and had a deal in place. Rockies took Dahl instead of Hawkins and changed everything What was the proposed deal? Do you mean drafting Stroman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Hawkins still listed at #14 on its Top Prospect List. Can't remember where SoxTalk had him in the last list. Probably about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) What was the proposed deal? Do you mean drafting Stroman? Signing bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 07:49 AM) Hawkins still listed at #14 on its Top Prospect List. Can't remember where SoxTalk had him in the last list. Probably about the same. FutureSox had him at 23rd, from the July list. Things only got worse after. Likely he doesn't even make the Top 30 in January, and what little stock is left is all on that big raw power and the extremely slim chance he can use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) Rumor was Sox were gonna take Stroman and had a deal in place. Rockies took Dahl instead of Hawkins and changed everything Dammit that sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 09:15 AM) FutureSox had him at 23rd, from the July list. Things only got worse after. Likely he doesn't even make the Top 30 in January, and what little stock is left is all on that big raw power and the extremely slim chance he can use it. Yeah. Very likely he doesn't make the next list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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