whitesoxjr27 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The White Sox desperately need to make changes in their front office. Ken Williams has been with the organization since 2000 but has failed to produce results. If they have another losing season, they should have no choice but to cut him loose. The Chicago White Sox have had the same front office in place for a long time. There is a lot of blame to go around but executive vice president Ken Williams should shoulder most of it. After giving the day-to-day operations of general manager to Rick Hahn, he has become nothing but a distraction. Because of this, the organization is in turmoil and needs a change. Williams should be handed his walking papers if this team has a repeat of 2016 next season. http://southsideshowdown.com/2016/11/02/wh...liams-hot-seat/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 holy misleading title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 He should be to some extent. I keep expecting him to walk away for another job at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 He should have been on the hot seat for years. But he's not because he won Jerry a WS ring. /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Of course he's on the hot seat. Do you think that in his position he wouldn't have purchased a chair with a built in heater to keep his butt warm and comfortable during those long, lazy Chicago winters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 what the hell is South Side Showdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Nice thought but not happening. Not yesterday, not today, not tomorrow. As long as JR is around, Kenny is his "guy." Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 In other news, water is wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 KW is a major albatross. We must hire better managers and coaches and scouts and must acquire some GOOD players in free agency, not these stiffs he's been bringing in. Kenny got one WS. Now let him go to the Oakland Raiders or whereever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 09:04 PM) KW is a major albatross. We must hire better managers and coaches and scouts and must acquire some GOOD players in free agency, not these stiffs he's been bringing in. Kenny got one WS. Now let him go to the Oakland Raiders or whereever he wants. yeah...the fact that Chicago as well as the rest of the country just witnessed what Theo accomplished...what he said he'd do is what stings Sox fans. He completely tore down a team and had a model/vision...pretty much what most around here have been clamoring for...for how many years now? I'm hoping yesterday was a huge kick in the sac to JR and the entire front office. Doubt it...but hoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Modern day bob pulford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Should of been gone 3 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 The fact that KW and Hahn are still around is beyond me. I am 100% convinced they will be around as long as JR still has a heat beat. The only way we see significant front office changes is when we see a new ownership. The Blackhawks and Cubs have both proven that. Rocky Wirtz saw the problems within the organization and made changes right away! Tom Rickets followed suit when he took over the Cubs. Now we can hope--Jerry and his cronies can change and come up with an actual game plan. However, how many more failed attempts and playoffless seasons must we experience before that happens?!? White Sox fans deserve better. We are loyal and hungry for a winner. If that means a 2-3 year rebuild so we can be really good for 5-6 straight seasons-- i'm on board. In fact, MOST White Sox fans will be on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Also, if they do in fact tap into the FA market or make more 'middle of the road' acquisitions, because they feel 'They are close'. And their explanation for avoiding a rebuild is that "White Sox fans don't have patience for that!" I WILL FLIP MY LID! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 08:32 AM) Also, if they do in fact tap into the FA market or make more 'middle of the road' acquisitions, because they feel 'They are close'. And their explanation for avoiding a rebuild is that "White Sox fans don't have patience for that!" I WILL FLIP MY LID! +1,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 I think you guys better start emotionally preparing yourselves for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) I am 100% convinced they will be around as long as JR still has a heat beat. BTW, how old is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 09:47 AM) BTW, how old is he? 80 Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 The entire front office should be. They did a half-assed job at a rebuild while losing percentage of the fanbase year over year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) The entire front office should be. They did a half-assed job at a rebuild while losing percentage of the fanbase year over year. Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 01:36 PM) I keep expecting him to walk away for another job at some point. I'm praying for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 QUOTE (Donaldo @ Nov 4, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) I'm praying for it. I remember when Kenny was pretty transparent about his goals for our team. Nowadays he can't be found and butts in at the weirdest times with the media to defend the honor of Hahn and their piss poor decisions and lack of direction. He has officially put a strain on his relationship with the fanbase. The fans do not trust him anymore. Nor do they respect and/or trust that Hahn is really in charge of player personnel. KW should not only be on the hot seat, but he should have left a long time ago. Us White Sox fans are trapped into hoping these stubborn executives can finally admit to their wrongdoings and set a new goal for a rebuild and be clear and open about it. It's a shame JR is too old to even care about wins or loses anymore. For him it's only about profit and personal relationships. If this was any other franchise, Hahn and KW would have been fired a long time ago. Robin had to walk away on his own terms (apparently?) Another blinder by our fantastic front office. Hopefully KW will seek employment elsewhere since JR is too wimpy to fire anyone these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowninginflame Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 All I want for Christmas is a new front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2016 -> 01:36 PM) He should be to some extent. I keep expecting him to walk away for another job at some point. That would require another organization being interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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