Dunt Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Top 10 are as follows: 1.) Zack Collins 2.) Zack Burdi 3.) Carson Fulmer 4.) Spencer Adams 5.) Alec Hansen 6.) Jordan Stephens 7.) Trey Michalczewski 8.) Jameson Fisher 9.) Alex Call 10.) Jake Peter Pretty discouraging that 1/2 of our top 10 list comes from the 2016 draft. Seems like the time is ripe to sell and load the farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I think that's far too high for Adams. Also think it overstates on Call and Fisher a bit, but not a huge argument. The 2016 draft was sure a nice boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I would flipflop Adams and Hansen in the top 5 for sure. The back end of the top 10 is a big ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) I think that's far too high for Adams. Also think it overstates on Call and Fisher a bit, but not a huge argument. The 2016 draft was sure a nice boost. Who would you rate ahead of Fisher and Call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) Who would you rate ahead of Fisher and Call? Amado Nunez. Possibly Adam Engel or Micker Adolfo. As I said, not a BIG gap there for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Man last year was really weak outside of ML development (Saladino/Anderson) and 2016 draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 BA also recorded a podcast talking about the White Sox top 10 and their farm system in general. http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/whit...s5eJIBQE8VVU.97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 10:43 AM) Pretty discouraging that 1/2 of our top 10 list comes from the 2016 draft. It makes Jeff Hostetler look good. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 01:51 PM) Amado Nunez. Possibly Adam Engel or Micker Adolfo. As I said, not a BIG gap there for me. Based on what little I know, I think Eddy Alvarez could be a Top 10 as well. Others have Tilson at or about #5, but it's all subjective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Donaldo @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 08:38 PM) It makes Jeff Hostetler look good. And his brother Nick even better! Edited November 8, 2016 by ChiliIrishHammock24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) BA also recorded a podcast talking about the White Sox top 10 and their farm system in general. http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/whit...s5eJIBQE8VVU.97 They basically made it seem like Spencer Adams is a fringey top 100 guy, probably just misses it. So that likely means that Collins, Burdi, and Fulmer all make it, which probably isn't much of a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 02:01 AM) They basically made it seem like Spencer Adams is a fringey top 100 guy, probably just misses it. So that likely means that Collins, Burdi, and Fulmer all make it, which probably isn't much of a surprise. I'll be surprised if Fulmer made it. I will Collins and Burdi will be in the 70-100 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 11:00 AM) I'll be surprised if Fulmer made it. I will Collins and Burdi will be in the 70-100 range. Might be fun to make some predictions. I'll go ahead and say Collins is #52, Burdi is #73, Fulmer is #89. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I am pretty interested to see the top 30 list. I want to see who made the biggest jumps and how many J2 guys are on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (Donaldo @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 08:38 PM) It makes Jeff Hostetler look good. Based on what little I know, I think Eddy Alvarez could be a Top 10 as well. Others have Tilson at or about #5, but it's all subjective. I think Alvarez is in the teens, at least for me, and I'm higher side on him. Tilson is also teens for me and lower than Alvarez - I don't get the level of love he's gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) Might be fun to make some predictions. I'll go ahead and say Collins is #52, Burdi is #73, Fulmer is #89. Historically speaking, BA likes to rank our guys in the back half of the 100, so I will say Collins 74 and Burdi 92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Baseball America just finished their chat on Chicago White Sox prospects. Check it out good information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 8, 2016 -> 12:09 AM) And his brother Nick even better! Jeff Hostetler is the former NFL QB. Whoops. Edited November 9, 2016 by Donaldo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 01:51 PM) Micker Adolfo. As I said, not a BIG gap there for me. Yeah, Im comfortable calling this guy a "non-prospect" at this point. Yes, i get how young he is, but that simply does not matter. Any player who strikes out @ a ~30% clip in the low minors will never ever amount to anything. This last draft (and more importantly, it's focus on OBP) should at long last show the org & it's fans what should be the most important tool of any position player, except for catchers. As Adolfo divides his time between being injured and striking out, I fail to see any chance for him to make The Show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (Two-Gun Pete @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) Yeah, Im comfortable calling this guy a "non-prospect" at this point. Yes, i get how young he is, but that simply does not matter. Any player who strikes out @ a ~30% clip in the low minors will never ever amount to anything. This last draft (and more importantly, it's focus on OBP) should at long last show the org & it's fans what should be the most important tool of any position player, except for catchers. As Adolfo divides his time between being injured and striking out, I fail to see any chance for him to make The Show. You've decided that the guy who just finished in Class A at age 19, and who has some of the best power, arm and athletic tools in the entire system, is a non-prospect? Come on now. He certainly could be a bust, most prospects end up there, but giving up on him at this point is silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 If all goes well, those bottom five should be knocked off the top 10 list by the end of the offseason. And it's in the realm of possibility that only the top two or three guys are still on it. It all depends on how deep we go with this rebuild, but the possibilities are extremely exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 7, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Amado Nunez. Possibly Adam Engel or Micker Adolfo. As I said, not a BIG gap there for me. You gotta be kidding me. Micker isn't close to those guys (Fisher and Call). Edited November 11, 2016 by oldsox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 either the 2016 draft was great or the system was worse than I thought. To have five of top 10 picked last June is revealing Also so far it appears that the revamped efforts in Latin America isn't producing much. Another bad sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 11, 2016 -> 03:54 AM) either the 2016 draft was great or the system was worse than I thought. To have five of top 10 picked last June is revealing Also so far it appears that the revamped efforts in Latin America isn't producing much. Another bad sign. Actually I am very disappointed in our Latin America work. I thought Paddy would help sooner and now I am wondering if he will at all. Nunez is about it, and he is not a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) You gotta be kidding me. Micker isn't close to those guys (Fisher and Call). I'd put him above those two, or right around the same anyway. Tools over performance at that level. QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) either the 2016 draft was great or the system was worse than I thought. To have five of top 10 picked last June is revealing Also so far it appears that the revamped efforts in Latin America isn't producing much. Another bad sign. On the bolded, it's really both. Disagree on LatAm, we are seeing a real wave of talent in the lower levels now. Remember that the LatAm stream really just started getting going again in 2012, and more so in the next few years. Those are 16-year olds signing at those times, so they are now guys who are like 18-20 years old. This is just now when we'll start seeing how they work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 10, 2016 -> 09:54 PM) either the 2016 draft was great or the system was worse than I thought. To have five of top 10 picked last June is revealing Also so far it appears that the revamped efforts in Latin America isn't producing much. Another bad sign. QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Nov 11, 2016 -> 07:06 AM) Actually I am very disappointed in our Latin America work. I thought Paddy would help sooner and now I am wondering if he will at all. Nunez is about it, and he is not a stud. When you are signing freshly minted 16 year olds out of Latin America you have to put them out of your minds for 4 to 5 years. Not only are they essentially sophomores in HS, they are sophomores who have played next to zero organized baseball. They are trained for workouts, not games. If you compare them to 18 year olds coming out of the US or Japan, for example, you are looking at kids who might have been playing organized and competitive baseball for a decade, or more. These kids have to be totally retrained from the ground up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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