RockRaines Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Nov 27, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) He's still doing this....as President Elect. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/...972944532209664 He knows his base and the people who troll all day on social media. They are morons and will believe anything they read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 This Gen. Petraeus thing is so hysterical because one - he should not be allowed to serve in gov't again as he actually knowingly gave intel to his mistress and was prosecuted and two - because I would be somewhat relieved because despite him being incredibly reckless he is broadly more competent than others Trump has nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) This Gen. Petraeus thing is so hysterical because one - he should not be allowed to serve in gov't again as he actually knowingly gave intel to his mistress and was prosecuted Yeah, but Hillary.... Gotta love how almost everything Trump does is the opposite of what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) This Gen. Petraeus thing is so hysterical because one - he should not be allowed to serve in gov't again as he actually knowingly gave intel to his mistress and was prosecuted and two - because I would be somewhat relieved because despite him being incredibly reckless he is broadly more competent than others Trump has nominated. Compared to all the other choices I'm all about Petraeus. But then INTEL! AFFAIR! LOUD NOISES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Also would be ironic to give it to Petraeus when Giuliani and Christie were disqualified due to work for foreign governments and Bridgegate ties (not to mention the Kushner Sr. prosecution) respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Trump to nominate Georgia rep tom price for hhs. Price has been a strong Obamacare critic and has advocated for deregulation, tort reform (ie limiting doctor liability) and health savings accounts as the fix to our broken health care system. https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp...android-verizon Any republican plan will almost definitely gut the medicaid expansion, throwing millions back into the ranks of the uninsured. Edited November 29, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-tacti...-194518444.html Trump's tactics for saving jobs could kill them instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Trump's infrastructure plan is a bunch of tax breaks, not actual projects https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/...android-verizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 http://observer.com/2016/11/republicans-th...mented/?ref=yfp NYC and Trump administration on a collision course on immigration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 06:42 AM) Trump's infrastructure plan is a bunch of tax breaks, not actual projects https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/...android-verizon In fairness, the Republicans refuse to spend any new money on infrastructure so there has to be some creativity involved...the obvious problem is that most of the benefits will fall into Top 1% hands, bondholders, banks....bridge and highway tolls, everything privatized. Of course, they're perfect willing to increase defense spending and wipe out 75% of the social safety net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 BETSY DEVOS, TRUMP’S BIG-DONOR EDUCATION SECRETARY But it would be hard to find a better representative of the “donor class” than DeVos, whose family has been allied with Charles and David Koch for years. Betsy, her husband Richard, Jr. (Dick), and her father-in-law, Richard, Sr., whose fortune was estimated by Forbes to be worth $5.1 billion, have turned up repeatedly on lists of attendees at the Kochs’ donor summits, and as contributors to the brothers’ political ventures. In 2010, Charles Koch described Richard DeVos, Sr., as one of thirty-two “great partners” who had contributed a million dollars or more to the tens of millions of dollars that the Kochs planned to spend in that year’s campaign cycle. While the DeVoses are less well known than the Kochs, they have played a similar role in bankrolling the rightward march of the Republican Party. Starting in 1970, the DeVos family, which is based in Grand Rapids, Michigan, began directing at least two hundred million dollars into funding what was then called “The New Right.” The family supported conservative think tanks such as the Heritage Foundation; academic organizations such as the Collegiate Studies Institute, which funded conservative publications on college campuses; and the secretive Council on National Policy, which the Times called “a little-known club of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country.” The Council’s membership list, which was kept secret, included leaders of the Christian right, such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and Phyllis Schlafly, and anti-tax and pro-gun groups. Richard DeVos, Sr., liked to say that it brought together “the doers and the donors.” DeVos is a religious conservative who has pushed for years to breach the wall between church and state on education, among other issues.* (The Washington Post reports that Betsy DeVos has been an elder at Mars Hill, in Grand Rapids.) Betsy, who served as the chairwoman of the Michigan Republican Party in the late nineties and again in the early aughts, spent more than two million dollars of the family’s money on a failed school-vouchers referendum in 2000, which would have allowed Michigan residents to use public funds to pay for tuition at religious schools. The family then spent thirty-five million dollars, in 2006, on Dick DeVos’s unsuccessful campaign to unseat Jennifer Granholm, then the Democratic governor of the state. After that campaign, the DeVos family doubled down on political contributions and support for conservative Christian causes. Members of the family, including Betsy and Dick DeVos, have spent heavily in opposition to same-sex-marriage laws in several states. According to the Michigan L.G.B.T. publication PrideSource.com, Devos and her husband led the successful campaign to pass an anti-gay-marriage ballot referendum in the state in 2004, contributing more than two hundred thousand dollars to the effort. Dick Devos reportedly gave a hundred thousand dollars, in 2008, to an amendment that banned same-sex marriage in Florida. That year, Elsa Prince Broekhuizen, Betsy Devos’s mother, was a major contributor to the effort to pass Proposition 8, which made same-sex marriage illegal in California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 So, scrolling through this thread after working for a day...that was a useless line of 5 posts with nothing really in them but links to stuff I've read elsewhere. No commentary, nothing of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) BETSY DEVOS, TRUMP’S BIG-DONOR EDUCATION SECRETARY https://thinkprogress.org/meet-mike-pompeo-...e2ac#.c1ks91xvs And thus, we can tie DeVos, the Koch Brothers, Mike Pompeo (CIA nominee) and Kris Kobach (immigration/Homeland Security) all together in a neat little bundle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_T._Flynn See "Retirement" Mattis, Flynn and Petraeus were 3 of 5 "warrior class" generals named by Fiorina...along with McChrystal and Keane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) So, scrolling through this thread after working for a day...that was a useless line of 5 posts with nothing really in them but links to stuff I've read elsewhere. No commentary, nothing of interest. I'm sorry those posts weren't up to your standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I don't like Trump, but this Barron Trump possible autism stuff was way out of line. Leave the 10 year old kid out of it. It's like when Rush Limbaugh used to mock Chelsea Clinton's looks. Total BS. And Rosie O'Donnell, there is no defense. Whether he had it or not, it's their business, not Rosie's or any of ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Here's a very simple solution. Cut military spending and profits from the pharmaceutical industry, hospitals/billing/needless testing and insurance industry by roughly 15-25%...and keep this in place until the Federal deficit is down to $15 trillion (at a minimum). Capitals gains tax on all households over $5+ million at a more reasonable 10-20% instead of wiping out all that revenue by phasing it out completely. Reinvest that money into education and infrastructure. Wipe out everything we know about public education/charter schools and start over. No Common Core or No Child Left Behind. The goal would be to get back into the Top Ten on the PISA exam. Bring in experts from Singapore, South Korea, China, Finland, etc., and also create a system where only the Top 10% of students would be able to become teachers and pay them a subsidized Federal salary that's at least competive with private industry. No more teachers working second jobs or teaching all summer long for money. Stop pretending climate change isn't real. Continue to provide incentives for the best and brightest immigrants to believe in the American Dream. Edited November 29, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Thats literally the opposite of whats going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 09:50 AM) Thats literally the opposite of whats going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Jennifer Jacobs ✔ @JenniferJJacobs SCOOP: "Thank you tour” to celebrate Trump’s victory begins in Ohio on Thursday, aides tell me. 1st rally: 7 pm Cincinnati at US Bank Arena. 8:28 AM - 29 Nov 2016 · Washington, DC Jennifer Jacobs ✔ @JenniferJJacobs The 2nd stop on Trump's "thank you tour" is tentatively scheduled for Des Moines, Iowa in early December, transition officials tell me. 8:30 AM - 29 Nov 2016 · Washington, DC Trump to do more rallies to feed his ego. Pence may effectively be the President along the lines of what was allegedly offered to Kasich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Supposedly Calvin Coolidge did that toward end of his presidency. Was likely suffering from depression, and began retreating as the Great Depression solidified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I say supposedly because I have no idea where I read that and don't want to look it up so I'll just water it down. But pretty sure it's documented and not rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Oh and Trump decided to declare today that flag burning, which is protected 1st amendment speech, should be punishable by revocation of citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) Oh and Trump decided to declare today that flag burning, which is protected 1st amendment speech, should be punishable by revocation of citizenship. What is he trying to distract from this time? I think I've come to the conclusion that Trump doesn't just say this s*** for the sake of it most of the time. There's almost always an ulterior motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Trump picks Elaine Chao for transportation secretary (CNN)President-elect Donald Trump has chosen Elaine Chao, the former labor secretary and wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, to be his choice for transportation secretary, an official briefed on the matter told CNN on Tuesday. The announcement is expected to come this afternoon. Chao served as secretary of labor under President George W. Bush from 2001 through 2009 -- the longest tenure in the position since World War II -- and has been married to McConnell since 1993. She was the first Asian-American woman to serve in a Cabinet position. Chao also served as the deputy secretary of transportation under President George H.W. Bush from 1989 to 1991. Following her time in government, Chao has held a position as a distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation in addition to conducting media appearances. At the Transportation Department, Chao would have a key role in helping Trump get an infrastructure spending bill passed through Congress and start government-backed works projects -- a role likely to be complicated by her relationship with McConnell, who will also be a critical player in any infrastructure bill negotiations. But Chao wouldn't be the first transportation secretary faced with such a conflict -- Elizabeth Dole served in the position from 1983 to 1987, while married to Sen. Bob Dole, who served as majority leader from 1985-1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) What is he trying to distract from this time? I think I've come to the conclusion that Trump doesn't just say this s*** for the sake of it most of the time. There's almost always an ulterior motive. He probably saw something on TV about flag burning and decided to respond to it. He has the mind of a toddler. or with the idiot savant media manipulator angle, you can say that he's baiting people to protest him via flag-burning which, rightly or wrongly, will be viewed by a majority of the country as disrespectful and un-American, helping to delegitimize anti-Trump movements. Edited November 29, 2016 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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