CrimsonWeltall Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) In other "definitely not a Russian pawn" news, Tillerson is bumbling his way through his confirmation hearing and said that sanctions only hurt American businesses. Well they hurt HIS business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) It is worth mentioning that these are the same intelligence agencies that gave us WMD's in Iraq. Was wondering who would fall into this trap. The problem with comparing the "WMD" argument, is that whether or not Iraq had "WMD" is dependent on how you frame "WMD". In a former life, I argued hard against the invasion of Iraq on the basis that while Iraq likely had some chemical weapons, the "WMD" argument was in an attempt to fool the American public into believing that Iraq had something equivalent to a nuclear device or an active WMD program. As it turns out, Iraq did have some chemical weapons, most of them being old and possibly useless, which depending on your definition, either proves or disproves that Iraq had "WMD". So a good comparison would be: Maybe there arent multiple Trump sex tapes, maybe not all of what the reports say are true, but that there is definitely SOMETHING there. It just may not be as much as was originally thought or it may be older. Its amazing how quickly Republican supporters are circling the wagons. Instead of "Maybe we should investigate this" its "we cant trust the FBI/CIA because a long time ago the Republican party misled people." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) and Tillerson engaged in some standard climate change denialism, saying man has an impact but that we have a "very limited ability to predict" what that impact will be. Which, of course, is false. Edited January 11, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 "We have much hacking going on." The eloquence of Obama to the stupidity of this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:22 AM) In other "definitely not a Russian pawn" news, Tillerson is bumbling his way through his confirmation hearing and said that sanctions only hurt American businesses. Also claimed that Exxon never lobbied on sanctions related to Ukraine or Russia, but they absolutely did Good for Rubio asking tough questions to Tillerson on Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) "We have much hacking going on." The eloquence of Obama to the stupidity of this man. An unintelligent, legendarily petty, mentally ill man who may or may not but probably is owned by the Russian mafia/government (same thing really) will be the most powerful person in the world in 9 days. QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) Good for Rubio asking tough questions to Tillerson on Russia. Yeah, that was excellent and well-deserved push back. Sessions is going to sail through unfortunately, but I'm not so sure about Tillerson. Edited January 11, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) An unintelligent, legendarily petty, mentally ill man who may or may not but probably is owned by the Russian mafia/government (same thing really) will be the most powerful person in the world in 9 days. I'm not at all ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yeah, I dunno if we can chalk that up to mental illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I legitimately believe that Trump suffers from some pretty severe narcissism to the point that it affects his ability to function in everyday life, but I'll drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Whelp, he's beginning to crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) lol paperwork props. And it won't be a blind trust, it'll be run by his sons. The same sons he has sit in on all of his meetings. So it's not severing conflicts of interest at all, and probably still in violation of the emoluments clause. He's not going to divest from hotels, golf clubs, real estate properties, anything. Edited January 11, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Trump's PR guy Sean Spicer started out the press conference by claiming Trump never met and didn't know Carter Page. Whoops. And now they're claiming that Trump divesting would actually be the REAL conflict of interest, you see! If Trump didn't want to deal with that, he didn't need to run for President. Edited January 11, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Invoking God...will be the greatest jobs creator ever made by God? What? This is insane. Going after Podesta, taking shots at Hillary and the DNC for their security....nothing is surprising when the day began with comparisons to Nazi Germany. That germaphobe comment to deflect from the golden showers? Nobody cares about his taxes? It's only reporters, sure. Stating over and over again he can't have a conflict of interest....no ties to Russia? Cmon. Eric and Donald Jr. will never talk to him and will be sequestered in a soundproof booth? You'd think he was giving a press conference for winning the Nobel Prize in every possible category. America is doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:49 AM) Invoking God...will be the greatest jobs creator ever made by God? What? This is insane. Going after Podesta, taking shots at Hillary and the DNC for their security....nothing is surprising when the day began with comparisons to Nazi Germany. That germaphobe comment to deflect from the golden showers? Nobody cares about his taxes? It's only reporters, sure. Stating over and over again he can't have a conflict of interest....no ties to Russia? Cmon. Eric and Donald Jr. will never talk to him and will be sequestered in a soundproof booth? You'd think he was giving a press conference for winning the Nobel Prize in every possible category. America is doomed. It's Day -9 of the Trump Presidency. I don't know how he, or us, will survive this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:43 AM) lol paperwork props. And it won't be a blind trust, it'll be run by his sons. The same sons he has sit in on all of his meetings. So it's not severing conflicts of interest at all, and probably still in violation of the emoluments clause. He's not going to divest from hotels, golf clubs, real estate properties, anything. Its an ethics nightmare. He's going to get impeached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) It's Day -9 of the Trump Presidency. I don't know how he, or us, will survive this. Eh, historically speaking he probably wont even come close to top 10 worse leaders in history, maybe not even top 100. Certain people may suffer, but we will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 04:50 PM) It's Day -9 of the Trump Presidency. I don't know how he, or us, will survive this. Basically we're counting on there being enough sane and intelligent Republicans around him to limit the damage. Trump is truly a dumpster fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) Basically we're counting on there being enough sane and intelligent Republicans around him to limit the damage. Trump is truly a dumpster fire. lol we're f***ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 11, 2017 -> 10:51 AM) Its an ethics nightmare. He's going to get impeached. Only if Republicans actually stand up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Dear lord the name dropping/calling. Grow up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The "Trump couldn't possibly divest, he'd lose money!" defense from his lawyer is pretty telling. "What, you actually expect this man to sacrifice anything?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Curious if there are still people out there genuinely thinking "Hell yeah! So glad I voted for him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The wall will be built starting immediately, and Mexico's going to pay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Where is Greg to drop his "anyone but Hillary she is corrupt" post while we all talk about Trump refusing to divest while talking about making deals with Dubai and saying we learned a lot from that hacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 He just said he doesn't blame for other countries taking advantage of the US. I want to say I can't believe that an actual President Elect said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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