The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) The country has moved too far to the left and the people said enough is enough. I agree that Trump is not a far right person, he's probably right in the center, his Supreme Court picks should be interesting. Edited November 9, 2016 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) They are called "politicians." And there are still 538 of them in Washington that will be making the laws. If they really wanted to "Drain the Swamp," people like McCain wouldn't be reelected. Not because he's a bad representative, but because he is a lifetime politician. That didn't happen. If you really want to drain the swamp the people of this country have to start a movement demanding term limits in the US House and Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I for one hope we stop murdering one million Americans each year. So far PEDT's SCJ nominations are just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:23 PM) If you really want to drain the swamp the people of this country have to start a movement demanding term limits in the US House and Senate. There is evidence at the state level that this simply does not work like you'd want it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) I for one hope we stop murdering one million Americans each year. So far PEDT's SCJ nominations are just that. Murdering Americans? What the heck are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) People who should be concerned: African Americans Undocumented people and their children Poor people Muslim Americans LGBTQ community Palestinians Am I missing anyone? White people that are married to any minority group Jewish people Handicapped People with long term medical conditions Anyone that votes non-Republican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 09:34 PM) Murdering Americans? What the heck are you talking about? He's trying to start an abortion debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (The Mighty Mite @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) If you really want to drain the swamp the people of this country have to start a movement demanding term limits in the US House and Senate. The problem is that the party who was supposed to keep big govt in check just overwhelmingly supported a candidate who appears pretty authoritarian. There wont be any draining of the swamp, this is just more status quo. The people in Congress (on both sides) get elected back in because all of their supporters just blame "the other guy." Even if they start off with good intentions, they usually get lost in the struggle to "keep power", which is why "gerrymandering" never gets addressed, as both sides want to use it to their benefit. Its also why the electoral college and many other "status quo" rules will likely always remain. The only reason Trump is an "outsider" is because over time he found a way to basically alienate both parties. Somehow that became a good thing. I really dont know what is going to happen next. I used to think that I had an idea, I really believed the Republicans/conservatives I knew who for the most part believed that "real" Republicans would turn their back on him. But now I guess we have to ask ourselves, what is a "real" Republican. Are we watching the Republican party shift, or is there some sort of core "small" government voice in the Republican party who will say no to Trump. The only "good" thing for Democrats is that when you have the house/senate/President, it often leads to infighting. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) He's trying to start an abortion debate. LOL, wow. Murdering Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:37 PM) He's trying to start an abortion debate. Ah. That whole farce? It's funny how many conservative women I've known over the years who have had abortions, including relatives, classmates, and neighbors. It's fine for them to have one but poor people can't. The hypocrisy is astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) He's trying to start an abortion debate. It's not a debate. It's murder and needs to end. Folks making themselves feel comfortable with murder by calling it women's health and the word abortion is abominable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:35 PM) White people that are married to any minority group Jewish people Handicapped People with long term medical conditions Anyone that votes non-Republican Jews are good. Ivanka is a converted Jew as her husband, Jared Kushner, was raised as an orthodox Jew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 08:41 PM) It's not a debate. It's murder and needs to end. Folks making themselves feel comfortable with murder by calling it women's health and the word abortion is abominable. It's a debate. You just don't want to acknowledge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) It's a debate. You just don't want to acknowledge it. No, it's about as much of a debate as flat earth is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) It's not a debate. It's murder and needs to end. Folks making themselves feel comfortable with murder by calling it women's health and the word abortion is abominable. Youre right, it isnt a debate. Its not murder. In order for something to be murdered, it has to be alive. In order for something to be alive it has to be capable of self sustaining. Is it "murder" when I get a haircut? Is it "murder" when someone has their tubes tied? Is it murder when someone has a vasectomy? (edit) Earth flat? You do realize the people who call abortion "murder" are the same people who said the "earth is flat." Either you with science or you are against science, this isnt a scientific debate, this is a religious one. Edited November 9, 2016 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:41 PM) Jews are good. Ivanka is a converted Jew as her husband, Jared Kushner, was raised as an orthodox Jew. More importantly, they are very good at managing $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) There is evidence at the state level that this simply does not work like you'd want it to. Well at least it will stop the Politicians from becoming filthy rich, Harry Reid was almost broke when he came to Washington, he is now worth millions, how does that happen on the salary of a Senator or a Congressman makes? Edited November 9, 2016 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 08:42 PM) No, it's about as much of a debate as flat earth is. One's views on abortion are ethical opinions, not statements of fact. It's not comparable to the shape of the Earth in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:44 PM) Youre right, it isnt a debate. Its not murder. In order for something to be murdered, it has to be alive. In order for something to be living it has to be capable of self sustaining. Is it "murder" when I get a haircut? Is it "murder" when someone has their tubes tied? Is it murder when someone has a vasectomy? It's alive and it's murder. Kill a pregnant woman in something like 38 states and it's a double homicide. But hey, keep trying to hide the murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:46 PM) One's views on abortion are ethical opinions, not statements of fact. It's not comparable to the shape of the Earth in any way. It's just as silly which is the valid comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Several high schools across the nation are holding walkouts because of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:47 PM) Several high schools across the nation are holding walkouts because of Trump. As they age and get more experiencing they'll be less likely to be liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) It's just as silly which is the valid comparison. Stop hijacking this thread and go start another one if you want to talk about this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) Stop hijacking this thread and go start another one if you want to talk about this issue. Read the first post of the thread again please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 QUOTE (brett05 @ Nov 9, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) As they age and get more experiencing they'll be less likely to be liberal. They're mostly schools with large minority populations so I think you're wrong about that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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