Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The real question is who will spend less days on the dl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 The only thing I can think of: Saladino still has like 5 years of control left. If he can keep up his 2 WAR pace from last year, he actually becomes a much more valuable trade chip than Lawrie (who put up a lower WAR in roughly the same amount of games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) If this is pretty much official, it is the first domino in a rebuild. It isn't like Lawrie was due a ton of money. It isn't like Saldino has been the picture of health during his career and is actually older than him. I liked his energy, and power. everything considered, it probably isn't a huge loss because he had the one year anyway. But I don't think I would have punted. I think it is far from official with no word from the Sox. Perhaps they've alerted him that they plan to move on, although that would seem like a dumb move as it takes away any degree of leverage they had in trade talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 09:08 AM) I think it is far from official with no word from the Sox. Perhaps they've alerted him that they plan to move on, although that would seem like a dumb move as it takes away any degree of leverage they had in trade talks. I thought someone had something since the title of the thread changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 09:10 AM) I thought someone had something since the title of the thread changed. Other than that Rob Hill guy (who is he?), I haven't seen it confirmed. Don't doubt it is in the works, but still seems odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 09:17 AM) Other than that Rob Hill guy (who is he?), I haven't seen it confirmed. Don't doubt it is in the works, but still seems odd. He looks like a HS kid, and I am sure his source was whitesoxdave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 09:19 AM) He looks like a HS kid, and I am sure his source was whitesoxdave Who has basically said he has nothing, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Yeah, I think we'll make a thread change. I assumed this was confirmed overnight. Still seems crazy to do. If we rebuild we will need some major league players and lawrie is cheap and can play 2 positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just doesnt make sense if a rebuild is on, especially if they are planning on shopping Frazier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Dunt @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) Just doesnt make sense if a rebuild is on, especially if they are planning on shopping Frazier Agreed. He'd be fine as a stop gap at third or second even. Only thing I could think of is he was bad in the clubhouse and it just wasn't reported or his injury is worse than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) I should clarify - I didn't mean that is non-tendered but more that he is done. The non tender date is December 2nd so they wouldn't have to dump him until then. They're probably looking to trade him. If they don't find a middle reliever prospect with control issues or starter prospect with strikeout issues or athletic outfield prospect who strikes out and doesn't hit for average then they dump Lawrie. This is what I suggested yesterday. He isn't going to bring a lot back in a deal. The types of players you described are likely the types we would get back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 10:49 AM) I should clarify - I didn't mean that is non-tendered but more that he is done. The non tender date is December 2nd so they wouldn't have to dump him until then. They're probably looking to trade him. If they don't find a middle reliever prospect with control issues or starter prospect with strikeout issues or athletic outfield prospect who strikes out and doesn't hit for average then they dump Lawrie. Sounds like the White Sox had Brett Lawrie wear some kind of orthotics in his shoes. Lawrie thinks they are what caused his injuries and he's had a falling out with the training staff. He gone in some fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 i am already sick of the orthotics discussion with Lawrie. Dude has been injury prone for his entire career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) i am already sick of the orthotics discussion with Lawrie. Dude has been injury prone for his entire career +1 to this. Why should a guy consistently on the DL get the benefit of the doubt on this? Seems to me he's talking up trash on his way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) +1 to this. Why should a guy consistently on the DL get the benefit of the doubt on this? Seems to me he's talking up trash on his way out. For those of us not on Twitter, what is he saying exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:50 AM) i am already sick of the orthotics discussion with Lawrie. Dude has been injury prone for his entire career Yeah. I questioned the merits of move assuming pure production lines of thought, but if he is gonna be a cancer in locker room, no reason to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) For those of us not on Twitter, what is he saying exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Hmmm. Not really any disparaging comments towards the Sox, but interesting nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 10:55 AM) Hmmm. Not really any disparaging comments towards the Sox, but interesting nonetheless. The implications are pretty clear there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:55 PM) Hmmm. Not really any disparaging comments towards the Sox, but interesting nonetheless. He said "they put me in orthotics", seems like he is blaming the sox for his injuries. You can blame the Sox for a lot of things, but bad medical decisions arent normally one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) He said "they put me in orthotics", seems like he is blaming the sox for his injuries. You can blame the Sox for a lot of things, but bad medical decisions arent normally one of them But that doesn't mean it can't happen. I can totally understand where Lawrie could be coming from and be angry at the team staff. I was misdiagnosed with Meneres Disease earlier in the year by a doctor I thought I had a lot of faith in. Needless to say, I would never go back to that office again after finding out from a second opinion that their staff (including the doctor) misread my test results. When a big life-altering (and in Lawrie's case, career threatening) mistake is made it is incredibly hard to have that same level of confidence exist even if they are as accredited as the Sox. Lawrie seems like the type of volatile personality that would rub people the wrong way after something like this. A Swisher 2.0 if given the chance. And I'm not saying this is the Sox fault either, we have no clue who his cryptic tweets are directed to. Edited November 15, 2016 by CWSpalehoseCWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Resolution on this by Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I was hoping he could be worth something to the Dodgers who have questions at second and third and seem to be checking everyone at those positions out. He could be a depth piece for them. Maybe injured worse than thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 06:04 AM) Resolution on this by Friday? Unless there's a lockout or he gets traded, they'll announce something on Friday. Avisail safe under a rebuild mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 10:02 AM) Unless there's a lockout or he gets traded, they'll announce something on Friday. Avisail safe under a rebuild mode? This. If this is indeed happening, they are probably trying to trade him in some form, whether that means dumped for a minimal return, or included in a bigger deal. No reason to not spend the next four days trying to deal him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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