GreenSox Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2016 -> 06:10 PM) George Ofman16 mins · TwitterHearing Whitesox attempt to trade David Robertson not going very well. Plenty of time, though. No kidding - he's injured and the time to trade relievers is in July....just hold him and, dare I suggest, actually participate in the July trade season this time instead of living in dreamland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) If no team will trade for him, Robertson may not win the Closer role with the White Sox. On the one hand that may be disappointing but on the other, a 7th or 8th inning role may be where his greatest value to the team will be. Edited November 17, 2016 by miracleon35th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 They have to make him the closer if he's still on the roster....unless they believe he will be more effective in his former role in NYC. Switching him to set-up permanently cuts quite a bit of his trade value, unless he performs like Wade Davis in 2014 or Andrew Miller the last couple of seasons. Running Nate Jones out there as closer (with Robertson still on the roster) is a risk if he can't perform because then you've got two pitchers you could have sold at higher values. Like the Keith Foulke situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 13, 2016 -> 06:17 PM) Then hold onto him and hope he rebuilds his value by the deadline. Absolutely. If he can be serviceable in 2017, some desperate GM will gladly overpay for him in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRL Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (Donaldo @ Nov 17, 2016 -> 09:24 PM) Absolutely. If he can be serviceable in 2017, some desperate GM will gladly overpay for him in July. I don't think that's the case. Yes there has been a trend in recent years to overpay for dominant relievers (whether the price is in prospects, $, or both). But, Robertson is far from that and the shelf life of relievers peak/close to pea performance tends to be shorter than that of other players. Most likely, Robertson is on the downside of his career. Even if that is the case, he can definitely be serviceable, and there will always be a handful of teams with struggling bullpens that will pay a few prospects for serviceable relievers (especially at the deadline), but not for serviceable relievers that are owed 25 mil over next 2 years. Serviceable are not a commodity just because the price of dominant and even very good relievers have risen. Bottom line, IF, and that is an intentionally big "if", the White Sox can find someone who will take Robertson off their hands even for nothing more than a pure salary dump, the smart move would be to take that deal and run. This really goes back to Robertson being a poor signing to begin with. A team that is basically built to best case scenario scratch and claw it's way to ~ 87 wins and squeak in to a wild card spot, and which has significant holes in terms of a number of spots in its every day batting order and the backend of its rotation, cannot afford to spend 46 mil over 4 years on a guy who pitches 67 innings per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 If you can't get a solid return, then keep Robertson and trade him at the deadline. Let him mentor Burdi for a few months. That could be beneficial to Burdi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Sox struggling to find Robertson trade partner Judging by how quiet things have been, seems like we're struggling to find trade partners for any of our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 12:53 PM) Judging by how quiet things have been, seems like we're struggling to find trade partners for any of our players. It's November 18th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Judging by how quiet things have been, seems like we're struggling to find trade partners for any of our players. The off-season doesn't truly take off until the Winter Meetings which is in about 3 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) It's November 18th! Well then this should've between post #2 in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 02:38 PM) Well then this should've between post #2 in this thread. Post #2 happened on Nov. 13th. That wouldn't have made any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I wonder with their current money situation if the Dodgers would swap Puig for Robertson? Money lines up relatively well, they don't need to shell out big for Kenley, and can keep the comp pick. In addition they address a need and do it from an area of surplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1) I would trade Robertson for Puig in a heartbeat. 2) Then sign Cespedes. 3) Keep Sale and Quintana and see how 2017 plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) 1) I would trade Robertson for Puig in a heartbeat. 2) Then sign Cespedes. 3) Keep Sale and Quintana and see how 2017 plays out. I don't see how that plan could possibly work because the bullpen would flat out suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) I don't see how that plan could possibly work because the bullpen would flat out suck. I dont really see it dropping off that much if they decided to trade Robertson and bring up Burdi to setup Jones. Personally, I think they should trade Robertson and Jones though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 The more I've thought about this maybe LA would take Nate Jones for Puig. I would definitely take the chance on Puig if it was just Jones. Everybody seems to think Puig is poison. Maybe you wouldn't have to give up a Robertson to acquire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 09:31 AM) The more I've thought about this maybe LA would take Nate Jones for Puig. I would definitely take the chance on Puig if it was just Jones. Everybody seems to think Puig is poison. Maybe you wouldn't have to give up a Robertson to acquire him. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KMule2545 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 09:31 AM) The more I've thought about this maybe LA would take Nate Jones for Puig. I would definitely take the chance on Puig if it was just Jones. Everybody seems to think Puig is poison. Maybe you wouldn't have to give up a Robertson to acquire him. Dude. Jones is a far superior reliever to Robertson at this point in time. Much better contract too. You have to get a Giles-to-Astros type deal for Jones...not a swap for Puig, who has 2 years of control left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 09:46 AM) Dude. Jones is a far superior reliever to Robertson at this point in time. Much better contract too. You have to get a Giles-to-Astros type deal for Jones...not a swap for Puig, who has 2 years of control left. Agreed. I would not trade Jones for Puig straight up at this point. I do not want Puig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Several teams in need of a closer are keeping tabs on Wade Davis and David Robertson, but the trade market has been slower to develop. https://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/805131878722404352 Im guessing once the dominos starting falling for the free agents interest would pick up for Robertson Edited December 3, 2016 by WhiteSoxLifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Add to relievers and not trade Robertson unless the deal us in our favor. Robertson looked good for the most part last year. I could see a core of Burdick, Jones, Jennings and Robertson minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Dec 3, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) Add to relievers and not trade Robertson unless the deal us in our favor. Robertson looked good for the most part last year. I could see a core of Burdick, Jones, Jennings and Robertson minimum You're having a hard time accepting the rebuild aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 3, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) You're having a hard time accepting the rebuild aren't you? Has the rebuild begun yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Dec 3, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) Has the rebuild begun yet? All indications are that it starts this coming week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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