tray Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Nationals rumored (by Nightengale) to be interested in Robertson (if they do not get Kenley Jansen (who they cannot afford) and obviously, if the Sox don't get offered more. I'm now wondering what they have left in their farm system that the Sox would want and what would be fair? Pick up Robertson's remaining Contract plus Robles to the White Sox? Unbelievably, there may be a larger market for Robertson who some of us thought would not be garnering much trade interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I know we've gotten several elite prospects and figure to get some more with Quintana, but you are going to be getting a more typical B/B- prospect for Robertson in maybe a 1 for 1 swap. He has red flags and is not dirt cheap, just more reasonable. Robles would not be considered, and honestly a player like Kieboom + wildcard 20-30 arm would be enough for me. Others have discussed Severino, who is a near ready plus defense catcher with a stick that is questionable to make him a regular in majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 09:30 AM) Nationals rumored (by Nightengale) to be interested in Robertson (if they do not get Kenley Jansen (who they cannot afford) and obviously, if the Sox don't get offered more. I'm now wondering what they have left in their farm system that the Sox would want and what would be fair? Pick up Robertson's remaining Contract plus Robles to the White Sox? Unbelievably, there may be a larger market for Robertson who some of us thought would not be garnering much trade interest. Robles for Robertson would be a fireable offense if I were the Nats owner The best we can hope for would be Fedde + pick up the remaining contract as of right now Robertson's value might be best at the deadline, or my plan would be to unload Robertson and his contract this offseason (which the $ owed to him does not seem as expensive as it did a few years ago) and let Jones take over as closer. Then if Jones does well we ship him out at the deadline for a nice package to a contender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 09:42 AM) I know we've gotten several elite prospects and figure to get some more with Quintana, but you are going to be getting a more typical B/B- prospect for Robertson in maybe a 1 for 1 swap. He has red flags and is not dirt cheap, just more reasonable. Robles would not be considered, and honestly a player like Kieboom + wildcard 20-30 arm would be enough for me. Others have discussed Severino, who is a near ready plus defense catcher with a stick that is questionable to make him a regular in majors. I would ask for Kieboom and Stevenson and see if they bite. If not, I'd take one of those players with C Jakson Reetz depending on what the Dodgers package is. Kieboom/Reetz or Stevenson/Reetz is about right I think. Kieboom/Stevenson would be fantastic but probably unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 (edited) Best scenario Jansen signs with the Marlins. Dodgers and Nationals go into a bidding war and have to raise the stakes. Edited December 9, 2016 by PolishPrince34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Man Jakson reetz. Totally forgot about him. Doesn't look like his bat carried over, how is his defense? He isn't even top 30 rankings for nats that I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Why do I know who Jackson Reetz is again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 08:17 AM) Why do I know who Jackson Reetz is again? A lot of talk about him a few years ago in the draft threads. Particularly from JoeCoolMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:17 AM) Why do I know who Jackson Reetz is again? I had to Google his name because, like you, I had no idea why I knew that name lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) A lot of talk about him a few years ago in the draft threads. Particularly from JoeCoolMan So did I. Wanted him with the pick we used on Jace Fry I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:28 AM) I had to Google his name because, like you, I had no idea why I knew that name lol Reetz is years away from the majors and not a significant trade chip at this point. Batting .230 in A ball (admittedly with solid OBP numbers...but that will likely evaporate with a move to high A or AA where the pitchers have far better control) with average defense I doubt he makes it to the majors without big time improvement in contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 10:39 AM) So did I. Wanted him with the pick we used on Jace Fry I believe. A few of us did. I think Dirty was the first one on that bandwagon at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. Sounds like they wouldve only moved Robles for Sale. And if we couldn't pry him for Eaton, there's zero chance we get him for relievers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. I think you need to hold on to Jones and let him close for a while, then try to move him for a return similar to what the Phillies got for Giles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:21 PM) What about Robles if the Sox include Robertson plus Nate Jones, or pick up part of Robertson's remaining Contract. I guess I am trying to figure our how our Sox can get a decent position player prospect instead of Moncada plus a slough of pitching prospects. You know, desperation may be setting in for Rizzo since he whiffed on a few trades already. Robles is an elite prospect, you are not getting him for Jones or Robertson at this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) I think you need to hold on to Jones and let him close for a while, then try to move him for a return similar to what the Phillies got for Giles. I'm open to that but only after we see what happens after Jansen signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) I'm open to that but only after we see what happens after Jansen signs. I'd shop Jones now and see, but his value would be very high if he can repeat his performance from 2016 as closer in 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If the Pirates need a closer, what about Will Craig who is blocked by Bell as he is likely to be a 1b/dh and Taylor Hearn LHP. Hearn would be very interesting to me as a power LH reliever ala Thornton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 The #Whitesox, who refused to include closer David Robertson in Adam Eaton deal with #Nats, now sitting on valuable trade chip https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/808382153545449473 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 12:46 PM) The #Whitesox, who refused to include closer David Robertson in Adam Eaton deal with #Nats, now sitting on valuable trade chip https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/808382153545449473 Rick Hahn playing the market to perfection so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Robertson's market will now heat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Nats & Marlins are two potential destinations (presumed since both teams were in on some other closers). Who else has been looking at closers or could be an option? I do think when it comes to Robertson, you don't have to move him now, and his value could be higher at the deadline (presuming he proves he's healthy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 So for the Nationals, the best available closer options in the market could be Robertson and Greg Holland -- if Holland doesn't sign w/LAD. https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/808386376244854785 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Potential targets: Washington Pedro Severino Koda Glover Juan Soto Miami I'm good thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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