DirtySox Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 04:43 PM) Nightengale says no serious talks with any team. Looking like the trade deadline all over again. It isn't even the winter meetings yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Seems like nothing will get done until the Winter Meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) Seems like nothing will get done until the Winter Meeting Not sure about that. Seems teams want to get stuff settled before the new CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 10s11 seconds ago The Washington #Nats among the latest teams to inquire on #Whitesox ace Chris Sale, but no serious talks with anyone yet Can you imagine a starting 3 of Scherzer, Sale, Strasburg (assuming he can stay healthy)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) Nightengale says no serious talks with any team. Looking like the trade deadline all over again. It is November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 05:53 PM) Not sure about that. Seems teams want to get stuff settled before the new CBA. If the White Sox don't trade Sale, they have until Castro/Wieters and Fowler/Desmond are signed to make moves to avoid having next season be completely wasted. Once those guys are off the market, the two positions the White Sox would need to upgrade to have a prayer of a .500 record become wastelands. That's the reason to push. If you're ok taking "Best offer" for Sale even if its disappointing, then it's ok to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:36 PM) Trea Turner, please! Giolito too That would be perfectly fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) That would be perfectly fine for me. What would you personally do with him? Keep him in CF or move him back to 2B? Not hating on the idea of getting him because I would be thrilled. Just curious what everyone's opinion on where he should play is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:14 PM) As a Dodgers fan, this sort of trade seems to go against their new organizational philosophy set forth by the new ownership group. Build a strong farm system to feed the Major League team, make trades to fill holes on the ML roster and not "Blockbuster" trades that gut the farm system (so to speak) ...such as this would seem. #shrug As a fan of both teams, if this trade goes down, I can have my cake and eat it too I'm in a very similar situation. I think the dodgers try and acquire someone like frazier and pick up the pick for turner and jansen and likely sign Chapman or another arm via trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (beautox @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) I'm in a very similar situation. I think the dodgers try and acquire someone like frazier and pick up the pick for turner and jansen and likely sign Chapman or another arm via trade. I never really considered this angle. They might be ok dealing for both Sale and Frazier knowing they will have 3 picks in the first 35 picks (assuming they don't give up any. Then they sign Chapman (like you suggested) or Melancon (heck, maybe even trade for Robertson!). Hypothetical question: what would a blockbuster of Sale, Frazier, and Robertson look like with the Dodgers knowing they are getting 3 early draft picks in the next draft and can get a draft pick for Frazier the following year? Edited November 14, 2016 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 3m3 minutes ago White Sox currently focused on a rebuild, but it's unclear whether they'll find offers acceptable to them for Chris Sale, Jose Abreu, etc. It really scares me that they might wait it out and not get what they are expecting and all the interesting FAs are gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 03:33 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 10s11 seconds ago The Washington #Nats among the latest teams to inquire on #Whitesox ace Chris Sale, but no serious talks with anyone yet This tells me that the Sox have had extensive talks with teams and are now using Nightengale to report the Nationals interest. Sox always use Bob as leverage. I don't think Nationals are a realistic trade partner because they won't give up Turner and don't have enough without him. This is a negotiating ploy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) This tells me that the Sox have had extensive talks with teams and are now using Nightengale to report the Nationals interest. Sox always use Bob as leverage. I don't think Nationals are a realistic trade partner because they won't give up Turner and don't have enough without him. This is a negotiating ploy. Yep we would need Turner...I'll have to look at his defensive stats later...but from a quick glance though they werent good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 07:15 PM) Yep we would need Turner...I'll have to look at his defensive stats later...but from a quick glance though they werent good. Was Turner the guy that the Nationals drafted with the pick they got from Adam Dunn signing with the White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 06:32 PM) Was Turner the guy that the Nationals drafted with the pick they got from Adam Dunn signing with the White Sox? No. Turner came over in the Myers to SD 3 team deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 WriteSox tweeted a suggested return of Turner, Giolito, Robles and more for Sale. I would s*** my pants for a package around those 3, no matter who the "more" may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) WriteSox tweeted a suggested return of Turner, Giolito, Robles and more for Sale. I would s*** my pants for a package around those 3, no matter who the "more" may be. Kinda worry about giolito having had tommy john already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 8m8 minutes ago Rumor on the hot stove is the #Dodgers and #WhiteSox are discussing Sale & Frazier in a package deal to LA for a big prospect return whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 7m7 minutes ago Heard it from two separate sources today from two separate organizations - not sure how advanced talks are at this time whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 4m4 minutes ago I wouldn't have tweeted this had the second source not preemptively reached out to me. Also please stop asking if Seager would be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 07:44 PM) He followed up by saying he heard this fro 2 separate sources who are not connected. So maybe this has some legs. I would interested to know if they BOTH just told him at the same time, or if he heard it from one source, and then asked another source to confirm before tweeting it. whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 7m7 minutes ago Heard it from two separate sources today from two separate organizations - not sure how advanced talks are at this time whitesoxdave @barstoolWSD 4m4 minutes ago I wouldn't have tweeted this had the second source not preemptively reached out to me. Also please stop asking if Seager would be involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 lol... Seager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Best thing about this news is this is the first official rumor for Sale. It should get other teams involved and up their offers(looking at you Boston). I still believe Moncada and Benintendi package is the deal they are really after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It isn't even the end of November and this offseason already has a completely different tone than any other year that I've been a member of Soxtalk. It's gonna get bonkers soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I really dislike the Dodgers prospects for the Sox, a third team would have to get involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 15, 2016 -> 07:21 PM) I really dislike the Dodgers prospects for the Sox, a third team would have to get involved Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Maybe none of these teams won't overpay for chris sale. Edited November 16, 2016 by peavy44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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