Guess the Sale trade

[peavy44]

This is why I think having braves in the mix is great for sox. Overall, I think it is less likely to work with just a bidding war between LAD and BOS, I think those teams are more likely to say "meh we can wait and see what else comes up".

 

The cubs really put a wrinkle in this by keeping baez, russel, et all instead of trading for areas of need. All are going to consider that now.

 

But a team like braves that needs to make a big play for fans will keep them honest.

 

 

Braves won't give up Swanson and ender incarte.

[daggins]

Might as well have fun with this:

 

Pirates get - George Springer

Astros get - Cutch, Sale, Alan Hanson

White Sox get hella prospects, including Bregman

[SCCWS]

If we don't get moncada and andrew bentrilln no deal.

 

Probably no deal.

 

[bmags]

Might as well have fun with this:

 

Pirates get - George Springer

Astros get - Cutch, Sale, Alan Hanson

White Sox get hella prospects, including Bregman

 

This is more fun than other scenarios but feel like astros are giving up too much but I'm not that familiar with Hanson.

[BigHurt3515]

I just don't see us trading both Sale and Quintana this off-season. One or the other

[NCsoxfan]

Houston or Atlanta. I picked Houston. Boston won't ante up the prospects and LA will prefer an option that costs more $ but less prospects (Verlander, etc)

[tray]

Seager isn't getting traded.

 

Trea Turner isn't either.

 

Dodgers and Nationals reportedly inquired. If they want to get an All Star like Sale under a team friendly contract for 3 years, then they have to trade one of their All Star players. That is what Sale is worth.

If they only offer a handful of prospects and a couple of mediocre position players, then forget it. We'll keep Sale as our Ace.

 

 

[GREEDY]

Sale, Frazier and Shields to the Dodgers in exchange for:

 

Cody Bellinger, Willie Calhoun, Alex Verdugo, Micah Johnson, Brendon Davis, Jacob Scavuzzo.

[peavy44]

Probably no deal.

 

 

Then no sale

[peavy44]

Sale, Frazier and Shields to the Dodgers in exchange for:

 

Cody Bellinger, Willie Calhoun, Alex Verdugo, Micah Johnson, Brendon Davis, Jacob Scavuzzo.

 

 

No way that nasty with shields in it i want seager

[bmags]

Here's the choice you have to make:

 

If you could even get them to trade Trea Turner - you are not getting more than that. Maybe some INTL prospects or A filler, but you are not getting more than that.

 

So the question is whether you break out to the higher risk, high quality prospects below them to get a larger breadth trade to create that depth of talent we lack.

 

 

[peavy44]

Here's the choice you have to make:

 

If you could even get them to trade Trea Turner - you are not getting more than that. Maybe some INTL prospects or A filler, but you are not getting more than that.

 

So the question is whether you break out to the higher risk, high quality prospects below them to get a larger breadth trade to create that depth of talent we lack.

 

We get more or no deal bottom line

 

[bmags]

We get more or no deal bottom line

 

Great. The past 2 years have been really fun, looking forward to part 3.

[Kyyle23]

We get more or no deal bottom line

 

could you try and participate in the thread topic, and do less one note grammar-free comments? thx

[peavy44]

could you try and participate in the thread topic, and do less one note grammar-free comments? thx

 

I voted already

[TheFutureIsNear]

No way that nasty with shields in it i want seager

 

Seager probably has more value than Sale alone.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Seager probably has more value than Sale alone.

 

 

He absolutely does. Corey Seager is better than Chris Sale. Why would LA do that?

[TheFutureIsNear]

I voted for LA...Probably a package centered around DeLeon, Bellinger, Verugo, Callhoun, and Barnes...maybe more if Frazier is also involved.

[soxforlife05]

Yankees. I'm the only one out of 40

[GREEDY]

No way that nasty with shields in it i want seager

LoL

[peavy44]

Chris sale will be with the white sox in 2017.

[flavum]

Chris sale will be with the white sox in 2017.

 

I picked the Dodgers, but deep down, I agree. I'll believe when I see it.

[Southwest Sider]

I think the Red Sox owners will push DD to make a deal for Sale. Those guys want to win and they know the Red Sox are on the cusp of having another championship team, and pitching will put them over the top. They need Sale. The Dodgers need Sale too, and I think they have an equally good chance of landing Sale, but I just think the Red Sox owners will eventually tell DD to make it happen... which would really be in the White Sox favor. Maybe they could still pry Moncada and Benitendi +...

[NCsoxfan]

I think the Red Sox owners will push DD to make a deal for Sale. Those guys want to win and they know the Red Sox are on the cusp of having another championship team, and pitching will put them over the top. They need Sale. The Dodgers need Sale too, and I think they have an equally good chance of landing Sale, but I just think the Red Sox owners will eventually tell DD to make it happen... which would really be in the White Sox favor. Maybe they could still pry Moncada and Benitendi +...

 

What the Red Sox should do is deal a current starter (such as Pomeranz) for prospects and use those that return to help offset the return asked for by the White Sox.

[iamshack]

Here's the choice you have to make:

 

If you could even get them to trade Trea Turner - you are not getting more than that. Maybe some INTL prospects or A filler, but you are not getting more than that.

 

So the question is whether you break out to the higher risk, high quality prospects below them to get a larger breadth trade to create that depth of talent we lack.

 

To touch on the "debate" ss2k and I were having yesterday morning, I do agree with the notion that you want to use the Sale trade to get back some quantity, as we have a depth issue. However, you simply also cannot afford to trade a talent like Sale for a handful of "everyday" mlb players. Depth is important, but it isn't so difficult to acquire that you make it your main priority in a Sale trade.

 

Therefore, in my opinion, you've got to balance two somewhat competing considerations:

1) I need to get back high-impact players - all-star caliber type players; and

2) I need to add depth - I need to fill more than one hole here.

 

There are a number of ways to do this, but the way I see NOT to do this, unless we are misjudging the market, is to ask for another team's mlb-proven cost-controlled star (Turner, Seager, Betts, etc). While it would be great to have a guy like that, it likely just results in the Oakland A's scenario, where you are forever trading your cost-controlled high-impact performers before they become cost-prohibitive but never really improving your team's chances of winning.

 

What we'd like to do is really to obtain 1-2 prospects with high upside, but still far enough way that you aren't paying full freight for them - the cost you pay prices in the risk. This is your Michael Kopech, your Rafael Devers, your Yadier Alvarez, your Alex Verdugo, etc. In addition to these 2 prospects, you'd like the centerpiece of the deal to carry far less risk, knowing full well that you are paying for that low risk. This is where a guy like Benintendi or Urias work.

 

Ultimately, it's going to come down to a case-by-case basis of who your scouts like the best, but I subscribe to the theory of balancing high-impact with the need for depth.