bmags Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 It's being reported that PA has not been prepping their players for lock out (as seen in NFL or NBA recently where there was a lot of chatter about saving for a protracted lockout), Knowing that, feel like PA will cave and bridge whatever gap is left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 06:55 PM) It's being reported that PA has not been prepping their players for lock out (as seen in NFL or NBA recently where there was a lot of chatter about saving for a protracted lockout), Knowing that, feel like PA will cave and bridge whatever gap is left. Aren't players paid at the end of months? If so, the PA has what, 5 months until the first paychecks don't arrive for anything that isn't a signing bonus, end of April? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 1m1 minute ago Sources: Progress being made in the labor talks. Still work to be done for a new deal, but hope is emerging on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 1h1 hour ago Jersey City, NJ hear of decent progress in cba talks. working til 5 am last nite a good sign. luxury tax threshold/penalties still an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) Aren't players paid at the end of months? If so, the PA has what, 5 months until the first paychecks don't arrive for anything that isn't a signing bonus, end of April? Paid every other Sunday during the season, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 35m35 minutes ago Three possible outcomes with midnight expiration of CBA: 1. Deal. 2. Extension of current CBA as talks continue. 3. Owners vote on lockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2h2 hours ago . . . They would fall back to No. 30, a less onerous penalty than losing a pick. Again, this is simply a proposal, an idea being discussed. https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/804071585095237632 . . . a wealthy revenue-sharing payor would slide back, say, five slots in draft. So, if #Dodgers signed QO FA, picking at No. 25 . . . Draft-pick compensation idea in play in CBA talks, per source: Rather than lose a pick for signing a qualifying offer free agent . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: Deal for new CBA is close, could happen tonight. Because of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: Deal for new CBA is close, could happen tonight. Because of course. Thank the love of god. Would have sucked big time if the Winter Meetings got cancelled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 34s35 seconds ago Source: CBA is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sweet lets get to business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 34s35 seconds ago Source: CBA is done. LET THE SIGNINGS AND TRADES BEGIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 30s30 seconds ago Sources: MLB and the MLBPA have agreed on a five-year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 1m1 minute ago Manhattan, NY New CBA is agreed upon. Hear luxury tax threshold is going to start at about $195M rise to $210M-$215M over life of 5-yr deal, sources say Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 23s23 seconds ago Manhattan, NY Hear new CBA will have 60-70 pct penalty for those extremely over threshold, about $250M payrolls or greater. Currently highest is 50 pct Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 32s33 seconds ago Manhattan, NY Hear in the new CBA there will be NO 26th roster spot. The current conditions with 25 and expanded rosters in Sept stays. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 28s28 seconds ago Source on draft-pick comp: “Still being discussed. Trying to shuffle around loss of first pick with player getting deal of $50M or more.” Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 22s22 seconds ago There will be free-agent compensation, but with a draft pick that isn't a 1st rounder Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago No international draft, but int'l signings are said to be capped to 5-6M per team per year. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 2m2 minutes ago Team that loses QO free agent will get pick only if player signs contract of $50M+. Pick it gets will depend upon that team’s market size. Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 5m5 minutes ago Club that signs QO free agent, if it exceeds luxury-tax threshold, will lose 2nd-rounder, 5th-rounder and $1M in int’l bonus money. Edited December 1, 2016 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 07:46 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 34s35 seconds ago Source: CBA is done. Awesome news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago No international draft, but int'l signings are said to be capped to 5-6M per team per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 08:07 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago No international draft, but int'l signings are said to be capped to 5-6M per team per year. That would be huge for us assuming no loopholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 08:07 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago No international draft, but int'l signings are said to be capped to 5-6M per team per year. Makes it an even playing field. Will come down to international scouting and negotiating with buscones.Hopefully no team will be able to go over the cap number. Edited December 1, 2016 by PolishPrince34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Going to come down to who can cheat the system the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 08:24 PM) That would be huge for us assuming no loopholes. Was hoping for punishment for those that were so ridiculous with last CBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 This might take the Dodgers out to making any big moves this offseason. Big luxury tax # for them if I'm reading this right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jayson Stark @jaysonst 1m1 minute ago Turns out draft-pick compensation won't disappear. Teams over threshold lose a 2nd- & 5th-round pick. Under threshold: lose 3rd-round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 08:36 PM) Jayson Stark @jaysonst 1m1 minute ago Turns out draft-pick compensation won't disappear. Teams over threshold lose a 2nd- & 5th-round pick. Under threshold: lose 3rd-round pick. Teams will not mind giving up a 3rd round pick at all under threshold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Do teams still get picks for losing free agents? If so, is it still a 1st rounder? Just wondering how this new CBA will impact Frazier's trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 09:08 PM) Do teams still get picks for losing free agents? If so, is it still a 1st rounder? Just wondering how this new CBA will impact Frazier's trade value. Have not seen anything saying that changed, just what signing team gives up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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