KMule2545 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:33 AM) Rutherford would be a nice add. Absolutely. I wanted to Sox to take him in the draft. That's the type of player we need for the future. He's in that Kyle Tucker/Devers group for me of guys who will just hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:33 PM) Gio Gonzalez, right? Not Giolito? Ha, sorry. Shouldve specified that it's Gio Gonzalez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Let's say Washington hypothetically got Rutherford from the Yankees and included him in a Sale package. What would you guys say to this? Sale for Giolito, Robles, Rutherford, Stevenson, Severino, and Fedde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footlongcomiskeydog Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 It seems like the hang up is that the Sox are asking for at least one "untouchable" prospect + in exchange for Sale. Which team below will cave first? Astros have to give up Bregman + or no dice Nationals have to give up Turner + or no dice Braves have to give up Swanson + or no dice Boston has to give up Moncada/Benitendi + or no dice I'm guessing that no one caves and Sale isn't dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Let's say Washington hypothetically got Rutherford from the Yankees and included him in a Sale package. What would you guys say to this? Sale for Giolito, Robles, Rutherford, Stevenson, Severino, and Fedde. I'm pulling the trigger on that all day. That's equal to Moncada or Benientendi/Devers/Kopech or Groome for me unless the Red Sox back end pieces were superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Let's say Washington hypothetically got Rutherford from the Yankees and included him in a Sale package. What would you guys say to this? Sale for Giolito, Robles, Rutherford, Stevenson, Severino, and Fedde. I can't imagine Gio nets Rutherford. But obviously would be stoked for that package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:35 AM) Absolutely. I wanted to Sox to take him in the draft. That's the type of player we need for the future. He's in that Kyle Tucker/Devers group for me of guys who will just hit. I know he got injured, but I was very surprised that the White Sox passed on Kyle Lewis for Collins. Time will tell, but I really liked his power Rutherford is a long way off making the majors, his ETA is 2020. That was too far out for the Sox to consider drafting him I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Rosenthal: Red Sox remain squarely in the mix for Sale, along with the Nationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 According to Stark, Nats told teams if they completed a Sale trade, Gio would become available. Apparently Gio is available. Maybe they want some physicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) I know he got injured, but I was very surprised that the White Sox passed on Kyle Lewis for Collins. Time will tell, but I really liked his power Rutherford is a long way off making the majors, his ETA is 2020. That was too far out for the Sox to consider drafting him I think At this point I have to assume anyone the Mariners draft is going to be out of league in 4 years. Just a brutal stretch for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:37 AM) Let's say Washington hypothetically got Rutherford from the Yankees and included him in a Sale package. What would you guys say to this? Sale for Giolito, Robles, Rutherford, Stevenson, Severino, and Fedde. Probably, but keep Stevenson and Feede and give me Lopez and higher upside but further away bat. Someone like Soto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:40 AM) I know he got injured, but I was very surprised that the White Sox passed on Kyle Lewis for Collins. Time will tell, but I really liked his power Rutherford is a long way off making the majors, his ETA is 2020. That was too far out for the Sox to consider drafting him I think I like Rutherford a lot too (not as much as Moniak), he really suffered from severe prospect fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Three way trade stolen from poster jonathanrod on SSS that I like a lot and is probably unrealistic from Rockies (but they are the PERFECT team to stretch out for a run) Rockies get: Abreu Giolito White sox get: Robles Rodgers Ramel Tapia Erik Feede Carter Kieboom Nick Banks Forrest Wall Kyle Freeland Nats get: Robertson Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:39 AM) I can't imagine Gio nets Rutherford. But obviously would be stoked for that package. The Yankees have a very enviable farm system right now, and not just in the top 10 They have really great depth throughout the system with interesting prospects. Hell their #20 overall prospect Montgomery had a great season and could profile as a #4 or #5th starter soon. I would not be shocked at all to see the Yankees absolutely stacked in 2-3 years, especially with a few trades/free agent pick ups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Three way trade stolen from poster jonathanrod on SSS that I like a lot and is probably unrealistic from Rockies (but they are the PERFECT team to stretch out for a run) Rockies get: Abreu Giolito White sox get: Robles Rodgers Ramel Tapia Erik Feede Carter Kieboom Nick Banks Forrest Wall Kyle Freeland Nats get: Robertson Sale I don't like that for the Sox at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Mark Zuckerman @MarkZuckerman 2m2 minutes ago And yes, if #Nats do acquire Chris Sale, it opens the door for Gio Gonzalez to be dealt. But latter doesn't happen before former does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:44 AM) Three way trade stolen from poster jonathanrod on SSS that I like a lot and is probably unrealistic from Rockies (but they are the PERFECT team to stretch out for a run) Rockies get: Abreu Giolito White sox get: Robles Rodgers Ramel Tapia Erik Feede Carter Kieboom Nick Banks Forrest Wall Kyle Freeland Nats get: Robertson Sale Wow, what a mega blockbuster. Although honestly Rodgers and Giolito might be a prospect wash and I feel like Tapia, Wall and Freeland is not necessarily the best offer we could get for Abreu Wall's defense is flat out bad, and I am not sure the hit tool makes up enough for it. That would jump start a rebuild for sure though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) Rumors of the Nats trading Gio to the Yankees. Maybe Rizzo needs the prospects to complete the Sale trade. I have kept the Yankees in the back of my head as a possibility for a reason just like this. They would love a real ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:16 AM) Mark Zuckerman @MarkZuckerman 6m6 minutes ago Sense here this morning is #WhiteSox are comfortable dragging out Sale talks, want to see if any other clubs can top #Nats offer. Yup. Typical Hahn move, he never makes a deal to make to a deal, he lets the market come to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:45 AM) I don't like that for the Sox at all. After looking at it again, I'm not sure I like it all that much either Abreu should net more than Tapia, Wall and Freeland. I'm not high on Wall. Abreu should get the Sox at least one top 50 prospect, plus two more decent prospects Flipping Giolito for Rodgers is a wash You are essentially dealing Sale for less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Wonder if the Yankees would have any interest in Robertson to go along Gio. They're one of the harder teams to predict, especially when it comes to bullpen arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 28s28 seconds ago Want to make this clear: #Nationals are not out on Sale. But #RedSox appear stronger at moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:52 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 28s28 seconds ago Want to make this clear: #Nationals are not out on Sale. But #RedSox appear stronger at moment. Screw the Nationals. I hate their team, their GM, and their prospects with the exception of Robles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowand's rowdies Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Can anyone profile these players being featured in the Nats & Red Sox deals? Some of us haven't really seen them play much if at all. Who do they remind you of as far as current or former MLB players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale 3m3 minutes ago The #Redsox and #Nats now in a dual battle for #WhiteSox ace Chris Sale with #Braves as dark horse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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