TheFutureIsNear Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think best case scenario for the Nats is a 3 team deal where they unload Gio Gonzalez to another team for a hitting prospect or 2 that we get in return. Not sure what the value of Gio is nowadays tho... Nats Receive- Chris Sale Nats Trade- Robles, Giolito, Andrew Stevenson, Lopez, and Gio Gonzalez (hypothetical)Yankees Receive- Gio Yankees Trade- Miguel Andujar and Dustin Fowler White Sox Receive- Robles, Giolito, Lopez, Stevenson, Andujar, and Fowler White Sox Trade- Chris Sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:45 AM) The stat doesn't, but 7 WAR players sure do. If that's what they think they have in Turner, they're not going to trade him plus top prospects for Sale. I agree that Turner plus is not realistic but Turner should be in the conversation. With Sale, Washington's rotation would be insane. You put in a Robertson or Jones in the deal to increase the quantity to go along with Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) There was an article by a Washington Beat Writer that was suggesting they are trying to go after both players without giving up Robles and Turner. I have no idea how that's possible. Yeah, maybe if they part with a piece or two from their MLB roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:00 PM) Yeah, maybe if they part with a piece or two from their MLB roster. I found it "Yes, but the Nationals’ continued pursuit indicates that they believe they can get one or both players without conceding Turner or even Robles." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationa...m=.f100706da2f8 They may believe that but it's not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It could be that they won't include Robles in a McCutchen deal but would in a Sale deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:04 PM) It could be that they won't include Robles in a McCutchen deal but would in a Sale deal. He specifically mentions no Robles in the McCutchen trade but then there's that sentence that I posted. Makes it seem they are trying to keep Turner and Robles then decimate the rest of their farm. It's not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The Nationals are in la la land if they think they can get Sale without Turner and Robles. I hope the Sox look elsewhere and tell them to f*** off or include Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) He specifically mentions no Robles in the McCutchen trade but then there's that sentence that I posted. Makes it seem they are trying to keep Turner and Robles then decimate the rest of their farm. It's not possible. Yeah, all the actual info on Robles seems to be vis-a-vis McCutchen. Seems like some of these articles are then extrapolating out that they won't deal him for Sale. Might not be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) He specifically mentions no Robles in the McCutchen trade but then there's that sentence that I posted. Makes it seem they are trying to keep Turner and Robles then decimate the rest of their farm. It's not possible. The way that is written though reads that it is the writers inference that the Nationals pursuit of both at once makes it seem they can get both without giving up either. That is a stupid way to analyze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:05 PM) He specifically mentions no Robles in the McCutchen trade but then there's that sentence that I posted. Makes it seem they are trying to keep Turner and Robles then decimate the rest of their farm. It's not possible. Another possibility could be the Pirates don't want Robles in the trade but instead want a different headliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (SCCWS @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) Another possibility could be the Pirates don't want Robles in the trade but instead want a different headliner. McCutchen is not going to net the Pirates a better prospect than Robles, and I have my doubts Washington wants to part with a prospect like Robles for him with only two years of control left I see Washington being able to offer Ross, Giolito, Robles + two more pieces for Sale. The front office will have to think hard about that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! LET'S $#@$^$ GO!!! Edited December 5, 2016 by NCsoxfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! Yes, yes, yes!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! Great poem by Heyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Lets get the ball rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! I'm guessing the public negotiating is about to pickup. I have a meeting today until 5pm CST. Can we all agree to keep the internet quiet until then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 ooh, a fire tweet, get ready for the cold bucket of water. i'm guessing that'll come from Olney. I kid I kid, I love this stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 It'll be cold water Scott Merkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! LET'S $#@$^$ GO!!! Stepping up means you put Turner, Giolito/Robles and drop your brass balls on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 People really need to get over the fact that Turner is not going to be part of this deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GGajewski18 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Giolito, Robles, Fedde, Lopez, Severino, and Kieboom for Sale and Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Rizzo on MLB network now and just basically said Turner isn't untouchable. Before I get anyone's hopes up he also said they're planning on having him for the future... But he said something to the extent of "that's not to say there isn't a trade out there that would require him in a deal" Would still be shocked to see him traded but interesting nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Username @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:11 AM) Rizzo on MLB network now and just basically said Turner isn't untouchable. Before I get anyone's hopes up he also said they're planning on having him for the future... But he said something to the extent of "that's not to say there isn't a trade out there that would require him in a deal" Would still be shocked to see him traded but interesting nonetheless. I smell a mega deal for Sale and Eaton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 2m2 minutes ago Nats are said to stepping for Sale. Meeting this aft. Red Sox are involved, and others, too. Things are heating up! Hopefully this is real this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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