Whisox05 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 nationals stepping up efforts to land chris sale. red sox, among others, remain interested as well https://t.co/dF0TShvmp2 https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/805853905066176512 http://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/heyman-nat...sox-interested/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Up until today I was thinking that Robertson's 2/25M left on his contract would be a detriment, but after seeing what Melancon got I'm not so sure anymore. Nats could have serious interest as a way to cut costs on the open market. Sale and Robertson for Lucas Giolito, Victor Robles, Joe Ross, Erick Fedde, Andrew Stevenson, Drew Ward, and Michael Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 scotgregor: If Nats are willing to part with package of young talent that starts with Trea Turner, @WhiteSox could have trade partner for Sale. https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/805854159958327296 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) I smell a mega deal for Sale and Eaton... Not sure that is possible. Turner, Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Ross, Cole, Kieboom, Nuese, Stevenson, and Severino? So basically Turner, Giolito, Cole, Nuese and Severino for Sale. Robles, Lopez, Ross, Kieboom and Stevenson for Eaton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Interesting. The Red Sox were out before. Now back in. Once one team caves, expect others to follow. Sale is one of the better established trade pieces of all time if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (SouthWallace @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:20 AM) scotgregor: If Nats are willing to part with package of young talent that starts with Trea Turner, @WhiteSox could have trade partner for Sale. https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/805854159958327296 Duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:22 AM) Not sure that is possible. Turner, Giolito, Robles, Lopez, Ross, Cole, Kieboom, Nuese, Stevenson, and Severino? So basically Turner, Giolito, Cole, Nuese and Severino for Sale. Robles, Lopez, Ross, Kieboom and Stevenson for Eaton. It's easily possible with Turner included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) I smell a mega deal for Sale and Eaton... Sale AND Eaton would require an absolutely enormous package going back to the White Sox It's pretty insane to think about, but you're talking about 11 WAR per season being dealt It would absolutely have to start with Turner, followed closely by Giolito, Robles, Ross, Lopez, Fedde, Kieboom I'm not even certain that is enough for two all star players under cheap control Sale would return: Turner, Ross, Robles, Kieboom + Eaton would return: Giolito, Lopez, Fedde + I don't think there is a team in baseball with the farm system to trade for both Eaton and Sale. It would more than gut any system, any team would be setting their minor league depth back 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) Interesting. The Red Sox were out before. Now back in. Once one team caves, expect others to follow. Sale is one of the better established trade pieces of all time if you think about it. All factors considered, I can't think of a better trade piece in previous history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) It's easily possible with Turner included. It's possible, but I moreso meant no way Washington trades Turner, Ross and 8 out of their top 10 prospects to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) Sale AND Eaton would require an absolutely enormous package going back to the White Sox It's pretty insane to think about, but you're talking about 11 WAR per season being dealt It would absolutely have to start with Turner, followed closely by Giolito, Robles, Ross, Lopez, Fedde, Kieboom I'm not even certain that is enough for two all star players under cheap control Sale would return: Turner, Ross, Robles, Kieboom + Sale would return: Turner, Ross, Robles, Kieboom + Eaton would return: Giolito, Lopez, Fedde + I don't think there is a team in baseball with the farm system to trade for both Eaton and Sale. It would more than gut any system, any team would be setting their minor league depth back 5 years Pretty clear this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:27 PM) Pretty clear this isn't true. I was just posturing what it would take for a team to acquire both Sale and Eaton HUGE doubts that any team would be able to stomach the return it would take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) I was just posturing what it would take for a team to acquire both Sale and Eaton HUGE doubts that any team would be able to stomach the return it would take Yes it's doubtful. Discussed earlier how I thought Eaton could justify Giolito Robles themselves. However, I will say it depends on how much your scouts think of turner. If this truly is an opportunity to get a talent like that unlikely to be matched, maybe you do spend more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Seeing Boston in the mix again makes me really, really happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) Interesting. The Red Sox were out before. Now back in. Once one team caves, expect others to follow. Sale is one of the better established trade pieces of all time if you think about it. Yes, if you consider 3 years left on deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 We've discussed this regarding Bregman, if we were able to pry Turner from DC, does he play CF for us? 2B? SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) We've discussed this regarding Bregman, if we were able to pry Turner from DC, does he play CF for us? 2B? SS? 2B I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) We've discussed this regarding Bregman, if we were able to pry Turner from DC, does he play CF for us? 2B? SS? If that is our problem that is the best white sox problem I've seen in a while. I think keep him in CF or move anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 With the strides Anderson has made every year at short, I wouldn't even think about about moving him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) Seeing Boston in the mix again makes me really, really happy. LOL they were never out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Trea would be perfect in CF for us. I'm not holding my breath that he comes here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:36 PM) With the strides Anderson has made every year at short, I wouldn't even think about about moving him around. I wouldn't normally, but I'd do whatever trea turner wants honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) If that is our problem that is the best white sox problem I've seen in a while. I think keep him in CF or move anderson. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) Yes it's doubtful. Discussed earlier how I thought Eaton could justify Giolito Robles themselves. However, I will say it depends on how much your scouts think of turner. If this truly is an opportunity to get a talent like that unlikely to be matched, maybe you do spend more. I think it goes a little something like this: Hahn - "Mike, you can offer Giolito and Robles all day long, but I've got to have Turner." Rizzo - "If I'm giving up Turner, I can't give you Giolito OR Robles...and I'm not even sure I can get a sign off on Turner, to be honest." Hahn - "You know our suite #, Mike." Rizzo - "Rick, you've got to help me offset Turner if I'm going to move him..." Hahn - "What about Melky?" Rizzo - "Come on Rick. I need someone who will be here for at least a couple years. Give me Adam." Hahn - Eaton is not off the table, but then I'm going to need Turner and your top 3-4 guys, Mike." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) I think it goes a little something like this: Hahn - "Mike, you can offer Giolito and Robles all day long, but I've got to have Turner." Rizzo - "If I'm giving up Turner, I can't give you Giolito OR Robles...and I'm not even sure I can get a sign off on Turner, to be honest." Hahn - "You know our suite #, Mike." Rizzo - "Rick, you've got to help me offset Turner if I'm going to move him..." Hahn - "What about Melky?" Rizzo - "Come on Rick. I need someone who will be here for at least a couple years. Give me Adam." Hahn - Eaton is not off the table, but then I'm going to need Turner and your top 3-4 guys, Mike." Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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