GGajewski18 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine 3m3 minutes ago Fort Washington, MD Wow-The Red Sox will pay the entire $31.2 million left on Yoan Moncada's original $63 million deal. White Sox get sweet deal on the money. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) That's doesn't exactly help us. Hell, it probably hurt us. It shouldn't matter one bit to either side. Sunk cost and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Thoughts now that I've caught up: Re: Kopech immaturity breaking his hand - remember when sale "broke his foot jumping off a truck"? That was b.s. two: after AFL there were two players I expect a big ranking jump in - torres and Kopech. Kopech dominated. That said. I think this was a win for both teams. I didn't see a need for other team to feel pain. Ideal was Josh Beckett trade, where florida got Hanley. Bos wins their world series, as does sale, and we get a future star. I am slightly taken aback but how little got filled out at the backend. Expected another wildcard. When you talk about a player so long they lose their impact, but damn, Moncada is great. To those saying "why get someone who failed at ml level" just LOL at you. Fair to be dissappointed in this deal, it is not the "we took your pants off and then threw you in a garbage can" return we first envisioned, but we just got (in all likelihood) two of the highest upside pieces in the minors. edit: wrote majors instead of minors initially. Edited December 6, 2016 by bmags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:57 PM) Nationals had the better offer (Robles/Giolito) Currently this is a lopsided trade in the Red Sox's favor. Time will tell. Well now that scotty22hotty has chimed in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) It was reported the Sox wanted Bennitnedi. And it was also reported that they wouldn't give up Moncada. They wouldn't give up both in the same deal. Decent chance the White Sox got the guy they preferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Why has this not been finalized yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 This is a complete steal. All that money just gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) That looks great until you look at Sale's September splits. Cooper had to ask Sale to not throw as hard this past season just so that he wouldn't put up a 1.4 WHIP again down the stretch. One has to wonder how much of an asset Sale is going to be in October, and that's one of the reasons why I'm fine with dealing him. To be fair, he never had the opportunity to prepare for October. I also think he was overused for better part of the season, constantly throwing 110-120 pitches a game during the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) I'm pretty sure that the return on this deal says that no player was off limits. actually it doesnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:51 PM) ALL OF THE DEAL??? Red Sox are paying the entire deal. Wow lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I love this deal 100 times more than lowball Nationals offer. Now keep the rebuild going and do not stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:51 AM) ALL OF THE DEAL??? Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Ages of 2017 season: Moncada, 22 in May Kopech, 21 in April Basabe, 20 Diaz, 23 in May Going to have some patience here too. 2019 or bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGone7 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine 3m3 minutes ago Fort Washington, MD Wow-The Red Sox will pay the entire $31.2 million left on Yoan Moncada's original $63 million deal. White Sox get sweet deal on the money. Wow. Wow. If you weren't getting teams to bite on prospects, this is a nice twist thrown in. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Why has this not been finalized yet? I'm sure there's physicals required for names this big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Wait, what? Red Sox are paying all of the money left on Moncada's deal. $31.5 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) I love this deal 100 times more than lowball Nationals offer. Now keep the rebuild going and do not stop. Yes, peoples crazy deals they threw out with language like "Kopech is a throw-in" (lol). We are about to have two pitchers that hit 102, one that starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeyman 52s52 seconds ago Chisox asked for benintendi, as everyone has (bos wants to keep). Chisox likes Jackie bradley Jr. Very much, and others QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) And it was also reported that they wouldn't give up Moncada. They wouldn't give up both in the same deal. Decent chance the White Sox got the guy they preferred. Maybe but that's not what was reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) If I was a Boston fan I'd be happy with this deal. It would suck to lose Moncada but he's far from proven and you're getting a bonafide ace who dominated the AL. Sure fire all star and probable Cy Young winner. The rest of the prospects are too far away from the majors to be overly concerned about. They have potential but are total wild cards. Both are still at best 3 years away from making any real contribution. This is from the Red Sox forum (not sure how well they know these prospects). I wonder if DD laughed out loud when they asked for Diaz and Basabe. Lottery tickets at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:50 PM) Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine 3m3 minutes ago Fort Washington, MD Wow-The Red Sox will pay the entire $31.2 million left on Yoan Moncada's original $63 million deal. White Sox get sweet deal on the money. Wow. That has Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it. No way that JR was going to pick that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:16 PM) Excited to have Moncada, but can't help but wonder why this trade couldn't have been made at the trade deadline this year? Because the Red Sox didn't pony up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:54 AM) Bruce Levine @MLBBruceLevine 3m3 minutes ago Fort Washington, MD Wow-The Red Sox will pay the entire $31.2 million left on Yoan Moncada's original $63 million deal. White Sox get sweet deal on the money. Wait, I thought he only got $31.5 million and the other $31.5 million was luxury tax? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Red Sox are paying all of the money left on Moncada's deal. $31.5 mil. I absolutely hate this if it cost the Sox additional prospects coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) To be fair, he never had the opportunity to prepare for October. I also think he was overused for better part of the season, constantly throwing 110-120 pitches a game during the summer. The flip side is how many games did Sale demand to stay in? It'll be interesting seeing Sale without Coop, Herm and the Sox PR protecting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) That has Jerry Reinsdorf written all over it. No way that JR was going to pick that up. I wonder if because he was an international signing, if that would have counted against the caps for this year if the White Sox had started paying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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