Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) Wait, I thought he only got $31.5 million and the other $31.5 million was luxury tax? None of it was luxury tax. It was 100% tax penalty on going over foreign amateur spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The Red sox sure Seized the Day, eh? 2 other teams couldnt seize the day like they could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 The Red Sox are only paying him the remainder of his $31 million deal. Anyone know how much that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 11:56 AM) The way I understand it, the Red Sox already paid the tax, the Red Sox are covering his actual salary. I thought it was a signing bonus...but I guess it can be paid over 3 years or something. I had assumed the Red Sox were paying this all along. I guess I am happy to see it confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:56 PM) The way I understand it, the Red Sox already paid the tax, the Red Sox are covering his actual salary. His bonus. He should be league minimum and under regular control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I could see them busting out the '76 throwback unis when Boston stops by the Cell in May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:52 PM) To be fair, he never had the opportunity to prepare for October. I also think he was overused for better part of the season, constantly throwing 110-120 pitches a game during the summer. He wasn't overused. Sale and Quintana have thrown roughly the same number of innings over the past few seasons, yet Sale is the one who's been mediocre in September and has had to alter his pitching style to keep his arm fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) I thought it was a signing bonus...but I guess it can be paid over 3 years or something. I had assumed the Red Sox were paying this all along. I guess I am happy to see it confirmed. It was a signing bonus but its likely broken up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Love that we finally played teams off each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Pretty sure Boston has already paid Moncada a big chunk of that -- he doesn't have $31.5 million outstanding. If his signing bonus was spread out over 3 years, he'd have around $10 million outstanding going into year three, if I'm doing the math right. Edited December 6, 2016 by bighurt574 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) His bonus. He should be league minimum and under regular control. Kinda wish Boston had not blown a year of service time by calling up Moncada in September...but I'm nit picking now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-education...WQDBHNlYwNzcg-- Reading a previous link, this jumps out Heresy though it may be, one scout who has seen Moncada extensively called him a “poor-man’s Mike Trout,” which is about the finest poor-man comparison one can get. Their bodies are similar – more linebacker than baseball player – and each comes with an enviable power-speed combination. Moncada strikes out too much, certainly – more than a quarter of his plate appearances between High-A and Double-A this year – but his 72 walks rank among the top 20 in all the minor leagues this season, and his slugging percentage ticked up about .500 after his promotion from Salem to Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) I could see them busting out the '76 throwback unis when Boston stops by the Cell in May. My favorite post of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 If Red Sox are actually paying him 30+ million for us, that likely cost us another boatload of prospects. That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 looking at some old youtube vids, Moncada looks like a butcher at 2B/3B. should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) The flip side is how many games did Sale demand to stay in? It'll be interesting seeing Sale without Coop, Herm and the Sox PR protecting him. Our bullpen blew saves left and right last season. I think he'll learn to focus on the bigger picture now that he knows he'll be needed in October. And if Red Sox are smart, they will hand him with care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) I wonder if because he was an international signing, if that would have counted against the caps for this year if the White Sox had started paying it? I didn't even consider that. It just seemed so typical of Reinsdorf to refuse to pick up contract money like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Isnt moncada an all or nothing type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) I thought it was a signing bonus...but I guess it can be paid over 3 years or something. I had assumed the Red Sox were paying this all along. I guess I am happy to see it confirmed. This is how I read it. They can pay him three installments over three years. My guess would be that the first two have been paid, with the third still to come after July 2, of $10.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) Kinda wish Boston had not blown a year of service time by calling up Moncada in September...but I'm nit picking now He was up for 31 days. That really doesn't effect the White Sox in any meaningful way. They have him for 6 years. If they wait 6 weeks to call him up they will get a 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Apparently our targets were Betts and Benintendi + in July, that's why no deal. Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN White Sox get a big haul from BOS -- and it's a step down for what they asked for in July, which included Betts and Benintendi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Jack29 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:59 PM) http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-education...WQDBHNlYwNzcg-- Reading a previous link, this jumps out If lots of strikeouts are accompanied by lots of walks, I'm OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:03 PM) Apparently our targets were Betts and Benintendi + in July, that's why no deal. Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN White Sox get a big haul from BOS -- and it's a step down for what they asked for in July, which included Betts and Benintendi. LOL, if the White Sox asked for that it wasn't a serious ask, that was a "We're not trading Chris Sale" ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:01 PM) I didn't even consider that. It just seemed so typical of Reinsdorf to refuse to pick up contract money like that. It seems like that would be a loophole you wouldn't want open as a way around caps. Get someone else to sign and pay, and then trade them something later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 02:03 PM) Apparently our targets were Betts and Benintendi + in July, that's why no deal. Buster Olney ✔ @Buster_ESPN White Sox get a big haul from BOS -- and it's a step down for what they asked for in July, which included Betts and Benintendi. Yeah that wasn't going to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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