bmags Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Not sure I want to go down the rabbit hole of debating this but I personally don't feel like they would be idiots for not making that trade. Schwarber has the potential to be a top three power hitter in all of baseball IMO and isnt far away from that right now. Not to mention the guy proved he could do it on the biggest of stages. Let alone giving two of their starting lineup for a starting pitcher when they are already have three top 5 pitchers in NL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (RockfordJim @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 04:14 PM) They haven't been interesting enough to post about in the last 4or 5 years. Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (RockfordJim @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) That guy stole my post from yesterday! Happ + Jimenez + Candelario + would be a solid framework for a Quintana deal It would hurt their minor league depth, but greatly position the Cubs rotation moving forward and create insurance against Arrieta leaving in free agency Happ is totally blocked in the infield and Jimenez is several years away from the majors Candelario is blocked as well Cubs rotation would be totally stacked for 2017 Could be a win-win deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 The only thing I've gotten from this thread today is that southsider2k5 is a whiny baby who is complaining for the sake of complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 How about an evening rumor eh boys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) How about an evening rumor eh boys? Worst Wednesday ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 05:50 PM) The only thing I've gotten from this thread today is that southsider2k5 is a whiny baby who is complaining for the sake of complaining. Oh, oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 There was a Yankees column on MLB.com this morning. I believe it was an Exec or Scout that said the chances of Q getting traded by Spring Training were 50-50. But it was another refuting of the Yankees interest articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 05:13 PM) Not sure I want to go down the rabbit hole of debating this but I personally don't feel like they would be idiots for not making that trade. Schwarber has the potential to be a top three power hitter in all of baseball IMO and isnt far away from that right now. Not to mention the guy proved he could do it on the biggest of stages. I seriously doubt they get the year out of the rotation that they got this year. Arrieta is getting a little long in the tooth...and not a sure thing to re-up with the Cubs either. Lester had a great year for sure...I'd be shocked if duplicated. We'll see with Hendricks too. The legend of Kyle Schwarber is getting more Rocky Horror cult status than actual production IMO. He had a good series after missing the entire year. Pitching is a premium. Schwarbers come and go...very good left handed pitchers under control for a number of years that are MLB proven upper echelon don't. Schwarber hasn't even gone thru a full year at the MLB level yet...and people want to put him on this pedestal for his HOF bust already. We'll see....of course this is just my 2¢. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 05:02 PM) Says the 16 year old that is in every game thread freaking out. Would you disagree? Seriously, just about everyone is on board with this rebuild and he has to go into every thread and piss in our Cheerios. It's insanely annoying and I wish he'd just create a separate thread to post his thoughts. Combing through these rants in a Quintana thread is unnecessary and annoying. and I'm not going to freak out in game threads anymore. I know next year will be rough, but the future is bright. Very bright. I'm willing to endure some lean years if there is hope in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I respect southsider2k5 and normally agree with his opinions. I just feel like his stance on the rebuild is well known at this point and doesn't need to be re-hashed in every thread. He even says himself that he doesn't like catch-all threads and that's exactly what this thread is becoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:00 PM) No, I don't agree with him and I've made that clear. But everyone has a right to state their opinion. You off all people calling him was the pot calling the kettle black, however. Very black. Fair enough, but I never said that he couldn't have an opinion and I'm not sure how my age is relevant to anything. I'm just a passionate Sox fan that wants the best for the sake of the team. I'm fully on board with this rebuild and hope they can continue the path they're on by trading Q for a haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:12 PM) Being passionate and being irrational are two different things. We can get back on topic now. Not sure why the pretentious, condescending rebuttals are necessary, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:14 PM) Not sure why the pretentious, condescending rebuttals are necessary, but whatever. Me neither, but hey, when in Rome, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) Me neither, but hey, when in Rome, right? Well this thread is officially the worst... Edited December 29, 2016 by Fantl916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:19 PM) Well this thread is officially the worst... Just wait until late tonight when SoxTalk coast to coast am gets started with the conspiracy nutter power hour. Tonight's topic: the White Sox are NOT rebuilding; part deux. Special guests include David icke and Carl Everette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Alright, officially time to get this thread back on track. While not a rumor, here is the first question from MLBtraderumors recent chat: Joe 4:32 Is there any remaining chance Jose Quintana goes to Pittsburgh? Jason Martinez 4:33 Chances only improved when they re-signed Nova since it's now very likely they'd include Glasnow. I'm guessing a team like the Yankees can still outbid them, but they'd have to include Clint Frazier or Gleyber Torres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:35 PM) Yeah, I can't figure it out either. How exactly is my original comment pretentious? I'm just calling things how they are and I know other people feel the same way. Perhaps I worded the post wrong but being pretentious wasn't my intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:44 PM) Liking where this is headed, and I actually appreciate the front office not rushing this. This move is just as important as the Sale and Eaton trades, this is last MAJOR trade chip they have in the war chest, they need to hit another HR. Exactly. Although, I think Jones could be a huge piece to deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 How would you guys rank the remaining trade chips in order of value? I'd say: 1. Quintana 2. Jones 3. Abreu 4. Robertson 5. Jennings 6. Gonzalez 7. Frazier 8. Melky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) How would you guys rank the remaining trade chips in order of value? I'd say: 1. Quintana 2. Jones 3. Abreu 4. Robertson 5. Jennings 6. Gonzalez 7. Frazier 8. Melky Frazier way too low. Right now, I'd put him #4. Edited December 29, 2016 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (Tony @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) I think Jones is going to be more situational. I agree with the premise, but not sure it's going to happen this off-season. And the amount of relievers available at the deadline will sort of determine his worth as well. With all that said, you are right that Jones should have a ton of value. Agreed. He has a good 1st half, with his stuff, his contract, and how cheap he is. Teams with good prospect depth could be looking to unload the farm for a guy like Jones. QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) Frazier way too low. Right now, I'd put him #4. Agreed. Frazier still has value and I think could net a low end top 100 prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 28, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) Agreed. Frazier still has value and I think could net a low end top 100 prospect. I would not give up a top 100 prospect for Todd Frazier with the number of bats available on the FA market and their seemingly dropping prices. I find it entirely reasonable to have him after Jennings in terms of trade value. I do agree he would appear to be above Gonzalez. Edit: Following this same logic I could find Abreu lower on that list than #3 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I still maintain Jones is worth a lot more to us than he is to someone else right now. Maybe if we move Robo and he starts getting saves, but I'd be surprised f someone would be willing to send top flight guys over for Nate. And I love Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 My guess for rest of offseason: Trade Q Trade Robertson Put Jones in as closer, Trade Jones at deadline. Can't move melky for more than a salary dump. Sox need to make decision if Frazier return is better than a 2nd or 3rd round salary allotment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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