whitesoxfan99 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) I'd throw Lopez in that "ace ceiling" mix as well, which is all the more reason to go for a Meadows and Bell centric package from Pittsburgh. That said, Meadows and Glasnow would be nice as well, abs of the Sox end up with the "problem" of having too much good pitching, we see what Sale brought and what Q is likely to bring. You almost definitely aren't getting Meadows and Glasnow or Meadows and Bell. I think a realistic package that makes a ton of sense for both teams is Meadows, Newman, Keller and a lotto ticket coming back the White Sox way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Lol I'm going to laugh when Hahn gets Glasnow, Meadows and Bell for Quintana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Everyone needs to chill on sentiments around trading for specific needs. You should be using your biggest guns to just get a talent infusion. Who cares if that talent is predominantly pitching. We can draft hitting in the coming drafts and focus our free agent money on that. Plus having a deep system means you can always be a player in trades. I personally don't want a lesser package if it means getting hitters. And I don't want a crappy catching prospect in lieu of an OF or arm with much much higher upside. I think this rationale I'm seeing a ton of here on this thread is how teams squander opportunities to get the best players. You see it all the time in the NFL draft, a team passes on a megastar whatever to draft a guard because "it's a need". Just take the best effing player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:30 AM) I'd throw Lopez in that "ace ceiling" mix as well, which is all the more reason to go for a Meadows and Bell centric package from Pittsburgh. That said, Meadows and Glasnow would be nice as well, and if the Sox end up with the "problem" of having too much good pitching, we see what Sale brought and what Q is likely to bring. I hate thinking this way, but in the highly unlikely scenario we have too much pitching, Rodon could become a massive trade chip to plug some offensive holes. Again, I'm not suggesting we do this, but it could be an option if we hit on enough of our young arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:34 AM) You almost definitely aren't getting Meadows and Glasnow or Meadows and Bell. I think a realistic package that makes a ton of sense for both teams is Meadows, Newman, Keller and a lotto ticket coming back the White Sox way. This is about what I'm expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:35 AM) Lol I'm going to laugh when Hahn gets Glasnow, Meadows and Bell for Quintana. Hahn gets Meadows, Glasnow and Bell for Quintana he would be worshipped at Soxtalk haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:35 AM) Lol I'm going to laugh when Hahn gets Glasnow, Meadows and Bell for Quintana. I wouldn't laugh as much as I would be very happy and excited for the future of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:37 AM) Everyone needs to chill on sentiments around trading for specific needs. You should be using your biggest guns to just get a talent infusion. Who cares if that talent is predominantly pitching. We can draft hitting in the coming drafts and focus our free agent money on that. Plus having a deep system means you can always be a player in trades. I personally don't want a lesser package if it means getting hitters. And I don't want a crappy catching prospect in lieu of an OF or arm with much much higher upside. I think this rationale I'm seeing a ton of here on this thread is how teams squander opportunities to get the best players. You see it all the time in the NFL draft, a team passes on a megastar whatever to draft a guard because "it's a need". Just take the best effing player I want a return of the best prospects available, regardless of position We have needs all over the place, and you truly never can have too much pitching. It's amazing to think about what the ceiling on a rotation of: 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez could actually do. Plus we still have high upside arms in Adams, Stephens, Hansen, Fulmer, Burdi and Dunning. A home grown pitching staff like that has the potential to completely dominate even the best lineups, and contend each year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:43 AM) I want a return of the best prospects available, regardless of position We have needs all over the place, and you truly never can have too much pitching. It's amazing to think about what the ceiling on a rotation of: 1) Rodon 2) Glasnow 3) Giolito 4) Kopech 5) Lopez could actually do. Plus we still have high upside arms in Adams, Stephens, Hansen, Fulmer, Burdi and Dunning. A home grown pitching staff like that has the potential to completely dominate even the best lineups, and contend each year Yeah and some guys won't pan out, some guys will be in the pen if they struggle as a starter, or some can be moved for bats. Edit: I wouldn't say that it is "home grown." Edited December 22, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don't know what it is, but I'm finally starting to get the feel that something is imminent and we might actually see a Q move happen soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I think Meadows, Newman, and Keller for Q would be the perfect package for Q. Just think about your potential 2019 lineup: C Lucroy/Collins 1B Collins/Abreu 2B Newman/Moncada SS Anderson/Newman 3B Machado/Moncada LF Moncada/? CF Meadows RF Basabe DH Abreu/Collins SP: Giolito SP: Rodon SP: Kopech SP: Lopez SP: Hansen CL: Burdi SU: Fulmer SU: Stephens RP: Clark f***ING LIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:38 AM) Hahn gets Meadows, Glasnow and Bell for Quintana he would be worshipped at Soxtalk haha Not how we roll.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:54 AM) Not how we roll. Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that the Pirates could be more inclined to add Glasnow as a piece to the White Sox. Edited December 22, 2016 by Saufley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that Glasnow could be a piece to the White Sox. If Glasnow is coming, I really hope Bell & Newman are coming too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that the Pirates could be more inclined to add Glasnow as a piece to the White Sox. Good. I hope we keep getting tweets and pieces of info throughout the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that the Pirates could be more inclined to add Glasnow as a piece to the White Sox. When you say "just now", you mean two hours ago when it was on the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Almost seems like a foregone conclusion that Glasgow would be part of a deal but I'm more worried about the other bats. Need 1/2 legit bats. Still seems like Meadows is unlikely & frankly Bell is risky. Not sure how to feel right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:02 AM) Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that the Pirates could be more inclined to add Glasnow as a piece to the White Sox. My first thought was that signing Nova could well be so that they could include Glasnow and not miss him as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) When you say "just now", you mean two hours ago when it was on the first time. Damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) When you say "just now", you mean two hours ago when it was on the first time. Wow get up on the wrong side of the bed!!! Sorry my life has other things to do except watch TV all day! Get a life! Now, was your response really necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) Almost seems like a foregone conclusion that Glasgow would be part of a deal but I'm more worried about the other bats. Need 1/2 legit bats. Still seems like Meadows is unlikely & frankly Bell is risky. Not sure how to feel right now. Why do you say Bell is risky? He put up solid numbers since being called ip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) Wow get up on the wrong side of the bed!!! Sorry my life has other things to do except watch TV all day! Get a life! Now, was your response really necessary? Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) Why do you say Bell is risky? He put up solid numbers since being called ip. I think people just want to acquire a more complete player as opposed to a poor defensive 1B/DH type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:09 AM) Wow get up on the wrong side of the bed!!! Sorry my life has other things to do except watch TV all day! Get a life! Now, was your response really necessary? Just saying it's a rebroadcast. Wasn't trying to be a dick. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) Just saying it's a rebroadcast. Wasn't trying to be a dick. Sorry. I just hadn't seen it posted on here this Am and thought it was live news, We're OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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