flavum Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 If the Pirates get Quintana, it's going to be a 2-team trade. The Yankees stuff seems off. They can make their own trade after the fact,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The Pirates best chance of winning the next 2 seasons would involve trading for Q and hanging on to and hoping for a bounce back from Cutch. Anything else is just maximum effort half assing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) If the Pirates get Quintana, it's going to be a 2-team trade. The Yankees stuff seems off. They can make their own trade after the fact,. The only reason for the Yankees to get involved is if the Pirates are unwilling to move a top bat. That's why the Glasnow to NYY idea is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) The Pirates best chance of winning the next 2 seasons would involve trading for Q and hanging on to and hoping for a bounce back from Cutch. Anything else is just maximum effort half assing. I agree. The whole Yankees for McCutchen doesn't make that much sense considering their timeline and what they'd give up. I think both want Quintana and someone will go all-in very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Pirates may very well believe that Meadows will be better than Cutch next year and this is an "anything to keep Meadows" move. If they can't, maybe they move on to dealing Meadows with it. ... (maybe white sox are trying to sabotage deal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Anyone know a good Yankees forum? Would love to hear their thoughts on this rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Soxnfins @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:22 PM) Have to pay to play. Remember when Aaron Poreda was supposed to be a big part of our MLB team? We showcased him just to deal for Peavy. Astros could have just showcased Musgrove and or Bregman and we may be forcing their hand. Musgrove moreso than Bregman. Have to pay to play is correct. That's why a deal won't get done unless the Sox back off those two. I don't think Poreda ever showed the success that these two have anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) Anyone know a good Yankees forum? Would love to hear their thoughts on this rumor. Riveraveblues all believe it's not true, and those that do are also trying to dump headley on us, for that, we get basically nothing. pretty dece trade. They were much more reasonable when Q was coming straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) Pirates may very well believe that Meadows will be better than Cutch next year and this is an "anything to keep Meadows" move. If they can't, maybe they move on to dealing Meadows with it. ... (maybe white sox are trying to sabotage deal) Meadows is a great prospect. I would love for the Sox to get him, but thinking he is one of the answers to a playoff team in 2017 is half assing 101. I don't blame them for not trading Meadows, I understand the appeal, but their window is short, they need a Cutch bounce back not a Cutch trade at a bargain rate. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:31 PM) The only reason for the Yankees to get involved is if the Pirates are unwilling to move a top bat. That's why the Glasnow to NYY idea is interesting. But if they aren't interested in moving Torres for Q, why would they for Glasnow? Torres is the only piece the Yankees have that interests me more than Glasnow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:25 AM) Is there any scenario wherein the White Sox take back McCutchen? Or is this more like the Pirates won't move their top bats, but the Yankees have an excess, so we're getting the Yankees involved in Glasnow to get the likes of Rutherford and Andujar back? I wouldn't rule it out entirely but almost. He was a legit superstar and there's no way at 30 years old he should've fell so low except for perhaps nagging injuries. He should still have big upside for 3 or 4 more years though his CF days are nearing an end. If part of the plan is to get reclamation projects to flip later who better than a youngish superstar who had 1 bad year and might be sold low who has basically 2 years left before he is a FA. Problem is giving up Q for him shouldn't be part of the plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) Meadows is a great prospect. I would love for the Sox to get him, but thinking he is one of the answers to a playoff team in 2017 is half assing 101. I don't blame them for not trading Meadows, I understand the appeal, but their window is short, they need a Cutch bounce back not a Cutch trade at a bargain rate. . Yeah, I honestly feel bad for Pirates fans. They were so excited and instead of this being a sign of full on going for it it's going for it* *so long as no budget is added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Maybe the deal is contingent on McCutchen signing an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I really am ready to get this trade over with. I'd like to have some new prospects to look over while on break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:58 AM) I really am ready to get this trade over with. I'd like to have some new prospects to look over while on break. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On to the argument about how we didn't get enough hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) On to the argument about how we didn't get enough hitters. hey now, did something happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) Yankees get: Cutch and Glasnow Pirates get: Quintana and Adujar Sox get: Frazier, Rutherford, Newman, and Keller Thoughts? Pretty good for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 For those that care, Kevin Z-Pack @Kevbo_ 20s My guy @BrianBilek_ will join us on @670TheScore at 3 o'clock for the latest on a potential #WhiteSox deal and who might be involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 A source indicated the Pirates must dump salary even if they bring in an industry modest contract like Quintana's. Thus McCutchen $27Mil https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/812394094869749760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) A source indicated the Pirates must dump salary even if they bring in an industry modest contract like Quintana's. Thus McCutchen $27Mil https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/812394094869749760 I feel so bad for Pirates fans. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Then there is your hold up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) I feel so bad for Pirates fans. What a joke. Totally. Q makes $6 or $7 million next year. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Man, that is truly tough to swallow if you're a Pirates fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Wow. They need to salary dump Cutch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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