ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:28 PM) I'm not a Reed fan very much at all. I'll take a Martes, Tucker++ deal for Q I don't want Reed headlining a deal, but he's very interesting to me. Martes, Tucker, Reed, Stubbs is what I had tweeted earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) Good Lord, everyone in here is delusional. On what planet do you think those two could net Turner ++? Another good reason to just have these moves happen already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) I want this trade just not sure you could get Robles. You CANNOT trade both of those guys to Washington and not get Turner. Washington is not going to trade Turner for guys their fans have never even heard of - there would be a mutiny. Trea Turner, in 73 games last year across 307 at bats, had a .937 OPS with 13 homers, 14 doubles, 8 triples, and 33 stolen bases. WHAT THE F*CK THEY ARE NOT GOING TO F*CKING TRADE THIS GUY. Their fans would riot. Edited December 7, 2016 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 f*** it, I'll throw some s*** out there because I'm bored while waiting for the next trade to drop. How about Q + Jones to Houston for Kyle Tucker, AJ Reed, Joe Musgrove and Francis Martes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:31 PM) I don't want Reed headlining a deal, but he's very interesting to me. Martes, Tucker, Reed, Stubbs is what I had tweeted earlier. Reed is interesting as a buy low guy, especially if Abreu is going to be moved. The Sox have the chance to be patient with him through a rebuild where the Astros don't since they are trying to win now. Reed was marginally better than Rizzo was during his MLB debut, though he is two years older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FT35 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Washington is not going to trade Turner for guys their fans have never even heard of - there would be a mutiny. Trea Turner, in 73 games last year across 307 at bats, had a .937 OPS with 13 homers, 14 doubles, 8 triples, and 33 stolen bases. WHAT THE F*CK THEY ARE NOT GOING TO F*CKING TRADE THIS GUY. Their fans would riot. Gotta agree here...a lot of fans forget--the teams in win now mode who are serious in adding players like Q or Eaton as the final pieces of a TOP contending team are not likely to deal a MLB piece that is a LARGE part of what makes them a top contending team. Turner is the Nationals' Kris Bryant--MVP caliber talent who could lead them to a title. Why would they trade for a couple of upgrades if it meant losing their difference maker? It's the same reason why the Red Sox didn't add Betts into the deal last summer for Sale. Notice the current MLB difference makers they traded to get Sale...None. The Nats would rather go after Cutch or buy Fowler than trade away Trea Turner to get Eaton added into a Quintana deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 When this trade goes down, how many butts do you think we'll be in the seats? Less than 8K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) When this trade goes down, how many butts do you think we'll be in the seats? Less than 8K? I dont know but personally I am positive I will go to more games next year than I did this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) I dont know but personally I am positive I will go to more games next year than I did this year. My thoughts exactly. Bring back the " kids can play" slogan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) f*** it, I'll throw some s*** out there because I'm bored while waiting for the next trade to drop. How about Q + Jones to Houston for Kyle Tucker, AJ Reed, Joe Musgrove and Francis Martes? That is actually a fairly interesting trade proposal to think about Martes + Tucker is a decent centerpiece to a Quintana deal. I'm not sure Houston wants to part with Musgrove or Reed in that deal though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) f*** it, I'll throw some s*** out there because I'm bored while waiting for the next trade to drop. How about Q + Jones to Houston for Kyle Tucker, AJ Reed, Joe Musgrove and Francis Martes? I like that package for just Q. Adding Jones should bring about 3 more names, at least 2 of which are high quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) I like that package for just Q. Adding Jones should bring about 3 more names, at least 2 of which are high quality. Quintana alone is not getting the White Sox Martes, Tucker, Reed and Musgrove If so I would accept that deal and move forward with the rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (FT35 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:52 PM) Gotta agree here...a lot of fans forget--the teams in win now mode who are serious in adding players like Q or Eaton as the final pieces of a TOP contending team are not likely to deal a MLB piece that is a LARGE part of what makes them a top contending team. Turner is the Nationals' Kris Bryant--MVP caliber talent who could lead them to a title. Why would they trade for a couple of upgrades if it meant losing their difference maker? It's the same reason why the Red Sox didn't add Betts into the deal last summer for Sale. Notice the current MLB difference makers they traded to get Sale...None. The Nats would rather go after Cutch or buy Fowler than trade away Trea Turner to get Eaton added into a Quintana deal. The thing about Turner is he is going to regress to the mean. He isn't a .342 hitter. He isn't a 25 home run guy. He's still valuable player, but .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) The thing about Turner is he is going to regress to the mean. He isn't a .342 hitter. He isn't a 25 home run guy. He's still valuable player, but .. Thank you. People are overreacting to short MLB stints from guys like Turner, and, on the other end of the spectrum, Moncada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart 1m1 minute ago Maryland, USA As far as acquiring Jose Quintana, the price is really high from what I've heard. A Houston guy I believe. Nothing new though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) That is actually a fairly interesting trade proposal to think about Martes + Tucker is a decent centerpiece to a Quintana deal. I'm not sure Houston wants to part with Musgrove or Reed in that deal though The proposal does seem to favor the Sox a bit, but not by too much. I prefer Reed and Musgrove. The Sox have a hole in the rotation for Musgrove who is a ground ball pitcher and Reed's left handed power potential would look nice in the middle of the order on a rebuilding team. For Q alone I think I would be happy with a haul of Reed+Musgrove and one of Martes/Tucker. Imho, that's pretty close to being a fair trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) I dont know but personally I am positive I will go to more games next year than I did this year. Why? There will be nothing worth seeing next year. The exciting prospects will be in places like Charlotte and Birmingham, not Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I see us moving Q for positional talent....Bregman clearly comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:11 PM) I see us moving Q for positional talent....Bregman clearly comes to mind. If they're not moving Bregman, I propose Q/Frazier for K. Tucker, P. Tucker, Martes, Fisher, Musgrove. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) If they're not moving Bregman, I propose Q/Frazier for K. Tucker, P. Tucker, Martes, Fisher, Musgrove. Something like that. Where is Frazier going to play, 1B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) Where is Frazier going to play, 1B? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Q is the only other player I can realistically see moving at these meetings. Market hasn't moved enough on closers (Chapman / Jensen still available) or 3B (Turner) for me to see the Sox having enough leverage / other teams to have the urgency to maximize our value (yet). Will be interesting to see what happens with Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 So who's it going to be that coughs up the next haul for Q? Astros, Yanks, Rockies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) So who's it going to be that coughs up the next haul for Q? Astros, Yanks, Rockies? It has to be the Astros right? I mean, they've got a playoff team right now, but right now I'm looking forward to the Boston/Cleveland ALCS slugfest followed by the matchup of the winner with the Cubs. The Astros have a playoff team on paper, but those other teams are loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:31 PM) Q is the only other player I can realistically see moving at these meetings. Market hasn't moved enough on closers (Chapman / Jensen still available) or 3B (Turner) for me to see the Sox having enough leverage / other teams to have the urgency to maximize our value (yet). Will be interesting to see what happens with Q. Yeah, I'm not sure there is enough time left to work something out unless they have something in motion already. Would probably have to be with the Yankees, Braves, or Astros since those are the teams that Hahn has reportedly engaged, and they probably have a good idea of the prospects that the Sox like. The Rockies could be a dark horse for a big deal, but that would mean they would have to likely swing a three team trade moving one of their OF's for more prospects for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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