RockfordJim Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Replying to myself. The first basee prospect I was referring to is actually Ian Happ, who is listed as a second baseman/outfielder. They also have a third-base prospect named Candelaria who is highly regarded, and a couple of really good-looking other outfielders. I would certainly explore those options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:18 PM) Would have worked better as a Rick Roll. But Quintana wants to ride his bicycle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:15 PM) Yep, sometimes these baseball rumors feel like we're riding a bicycle around a NASCAR track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well. I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well. I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got. If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're hell bent on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another. Edited December 27, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 06:23 PM) If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're content on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another. If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) If we can't have Meadows, then I want both Keller and Newman as well as Glasnow. If they're content on keeping Bell, then I would want Hayes and another. I think that is likely what Hahn and Huntington are haggling about. I would be ecstatic if Sox acquired Bell, but he is major league ready and will really help their 2017 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Levine says that every major league team remains heavily engaged in talks for Q, so take solace in that my friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list. Honestly I think McCutchen's trade market is holding this whole deal up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:25 PM) Levine says that every major league team remains heavily engaged in talks for Q, so take solace in that my friends. Every team is on him - sick wid it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 06:27 PM) Honestly I think McCutchen's trade market is holding this whole deal up. And until they make that move they don't know what prospects they could afford to give up for Quintana and they don't know what their salary situation is. It's an entirely reasonable issue - they can probably get that deal done, but it will take work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) The fact that the Pirates have been trying to trade Cutch should tell you Meadows isn't going anywhere. They absolutely love him. The reason they are attractive trade partners is because they can put together a really strong package without him. Glasnow and Bell are top 20 prospects and they have Newman (#42) and Keller (#72) as well. I would absolutely love a deal with Glasnow/Bell as the centerpieces + maybe Keller or some other high upside guys. Sox are not likely getting three top 50 prospects, that would be more than what Sale got. I would not rule out getting three top 50 prospects due to Quintana's surplus value Moncada was not just a top 50 prospect, but arguably the top prospect in baseball. Kopech had seriously trended upward from the #70's to being #30, perhaps higher as well. You do not part with players like that except for an elite player such as Sale Quintana could net the White Sox something like Glasnow or Keller, + Bell + Newman + maybe one more prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:34 PM) Sox have no inclination to move him either, unless they were to get a package GREATER than the Sale return. As it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 02:30 PM) I would not rule out getting three top 50 prospects due to Quintana's surplus value Moncada was not just a top 50 prospect, but arguably the top prospect in baseball. Kopech had seriously trended upward from the #70's to being #30, perhaps higher as well. You do not part with players like that except for an elite player such as Sale Quintana could net the White Sox something like Glasnow or Keller, + Bell + Newman + maybe one more prospect Without Meadows, I've come to my preference for a Pirates deal being Keller, Bell, Newman, + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) If they're not trading Meadows then they HAVE to move McCutchen right? Because otherwise there simply isn't anywhere for Meadows to play this year, and whatever they do with Mccutchen fundamentally changes the names we could put on the list. It appears that they want to move McCutchen. But he's an extremely difficult player to value... terrible 2016 in his magic 30 year. I can't see a team risking trading a top prospect for him; and the Pirates, understandably, want one. I can see a team doing some volume with second tier prospects. Edited December 27, 2016 by GreenSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Same problem with Archer, Gray and Verlander...he's still a former MVP, but the metrics no longer agree, especially from a defensive standpoint. Edited December 28, 2016 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 A year ago they were trying to extend him and now they want to trade him. They're panicking over one bad year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 When it comes to white sox trades - today sucks. Otherwise, it's been a pretty kocher day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Titanic has sunk. No word on number of deaths yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (Special K @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Yankees have expanded their Jose Quintana talks with #Whitesox that would include closer David Robertson, if Sox eat part of contract Been in a K hole, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #Titanic has sunk. No word on number of deaths yet. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Soon, it will be Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 07:27 PM) Soon, it will be Wednesday. Wednesday is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Duh. How could I forget!! He's almost guaranteed to be traded tomorrow then. In the last 21 years 5 trades have been made on December 28th - including Tim Raines being sent to the Yankees in 1995 and Chapman going from the Reds to the Yankees last year. All of these quantum mechanic elements added up lead to a near certainty of tomorrow's Q trade to New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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