The Ginger Kid Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Dodgers could use another starter, and a 3B. Frazier/Q for De Leon and more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hey. Kudos to Hahn. He's getting hte top level guys I wanted to see. But now that we know who else was offered his career will be defined by if any of them outperform Moncada/kopech who else we get for Q and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:46 PM) Yeah but if the offers are really 95% of the Sale offers, then I don't know how competitive that kind of offer is. I would guess 95% means you aren't getting the top guy, but the rest of the offer is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) Absolutely. Sell on Eaton now. He'll never reach 6 WAR territory again. He's just not that kind of player. Sign me up for the rebuild. If you can get big value for Quintana, Abreu and Eaton right now you do it That would likely give us a top 5 farm system at the end of the day and give the Sox an opportunity to compete better in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) I would guess 95% means you aren't getting the top guy, but the rest of the offer is similar. Quintana is under control for four years, unless there are premium pieces coming back to the Sox he won't be going anywhere I did not realize some scouts view Kopech as a top 5 pitching prospect in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? Interesting, but I don't think that would be the best use of Q and Eaton. It would likely be better to trade them individually for nice packages Abreu has a solid amount of value as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:14 PM) I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides. Yeah, you really need to get 8-10 players for Q and Eaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) "Catching breath" = making the other teams sweat and pay up to get him. Yep. It's nice being in the driver's seat. Q is the pitcher I preferred to keep but if a team wants to ante up then why not? For me, talks begin with a Sale type package and see if anyone ends up giving in. Imho, a team would. Possibly the rumored Nat's package for Sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:09 PM) Could you get Turner, Robles and Giolito for Eaton and Quintana? If I am Washington I would trade Turner, Giolito and Robles for Eaton and Quintana right away Eaton and Q are under cheap control for years and both have been 5+ WAR players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year Could be gearing up for 2018 to give JR one last final push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year We will have TONS of payroll flexibility as a result of the rebuild Once Melky and Robertson are off the books the payroll will be tiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:14 PM) I don't think that really helps long term. I would want more quantity than that, even if I had to give up one of the star players to do it. If I trade those two in a package, I want two or three front line guys, plus a lot of a teams top 10 besides. This. The point of this rebuild is to turn a poor farm into a really, really good system. The Boston package got you your headliner, now let's get 8-10 guys for Q and Eaton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year Bryce Harper will fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year Bryce Harper here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (daa84 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 05:16 PM) the other thing to consider is how insanely low our payroll is going to be in a year Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Hopefully we also take advantage of our (potentially high) draft picks the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Chuck GarfienVerified account @ChuckGarfien Hearing #WhiteSox are involved in many discussions right now. Hahn might not be finished while we're here. A lot going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:17 PM) We will have TONS of payroll flexibility as a result of the rebuild Once Melky and Robertson are off the books the payroll will be tiny Plenty of money for the bad 4year /$48-60M deals they like to hand out to s***ty players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (Username @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent. Sox likely won't be players in 2018, but come 2019 I could see a rebuilt team ready to compete with more moves and quality drafts We are heading for a top 5 draft pick the next two years in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Username @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:18 PM) Yep. Should have an absurd amount of flexibility for that crazy 2018 FA class, could speed the rebuild up dramatically and not lose any young talent. Correct. This is officially Hahn's team now, if we deal Q, Frazier, Melky, Robertson, and Eaton, it sets us up well for the '18 FA class with injecting our minor league system and incorporate some of the talent onto the MLB roster by then. Ladies and Gentlemen, hold onto your butts, the White Sox may be on the radar quicker than we think. Did I mention tanking for a year or two sets us up nicely for a top 5 pick? Edited December 6, 2016 by Soxnfins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) Sox likely won't be players in 2018, but come 2019 I could see a rebuilt team ready to compete with more moves and quality drafts We are heading for a top 5 draft pick the next two years in a row I'm glad that Hostetler is running the show now in regards to the draft. Love his philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I want more for Quintana than what they got for Sale or I wouldn't trade him. He's the best pitcher on the market now and is under control for longer than Sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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