steveno89 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I, for one, don't particularly love Tapia. I would much prefer McMahon or even Wall over Tapia. The package I really want from the Rockies is probably Rodgers/McMahon/Wall/intriguing arm. Tapia has no power, but hits for average and has speed. Good leadoff type guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 02:04 PM) Tapia has no power, but hits for average and has speed. Good leadoff type guy Yeah, I would be more intrigued if he could play center. Sounds like most think he ends up in right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I, for one, don't particularly love Tapia. I would much prefer McMahon or even Wall over Tapia. The package I really want from the Rockies is probably Rodgers/McMahon/Wall/intriguing arm. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-24-pros...lorado-rockies/ Fangraphs review of Rockies' prospects. They are pretty down on McMahon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I, for one, don't particularly love Tapia. I would much prefer McMahon or even Wall over Tapia. The package I really want from the Rockies is probably Rodgers/McMahon/Wall/intriguing arm. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) If that arm is Almonte, sign me up! #BringAlmonteHome Rodgers, Tapia, Freeland, and Almonte for Q? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-24-pros...lorado-rockies/ Fangraphs review of Rockies' prospects. They are pretty down on McMahon. Reading those reviews are a buzzkill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I, for one, don't particularly love Tapia. I would much prefer McMahon or even Wall over Tapia. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I think Houston will fold this week sometime. Martes, Tucker, Musgrove and one more I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 In a trade with Houston I would need: Tucker, F. Perez, Martes and Whitely to start. In a trade with Colorado I would need: Rodgers, Pint and Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Would people here rather have Pint or Hoffman as a second piece behind Rodgers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Also need to find a young catcher. Who's this Stubbs I'm hearing about? Is he all glove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMule2545 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) Would people here rather have Pint or Hoffman as a second piece behind Rodgers? Personally, Pint just to get the deal done. He's super talented himself, just further away and without a TJS to boot. Rockies are clearly trying to win now. We may run into a similar wall like the Musgrove from the Astros ask. I think in any of these deals, the more MLB ready guys you try to take from teams trying to win now, ultimately the less you'll get back in terms of quality or quantity on the back end of these deals. They're also less likely to pull the trigger too. Feels that way to me, anyway. Edit: + we need Pint and Beer. Badddd Edited December 11, 2016 by Ro Da Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Quintana & Jennings for Marte, Tucker, Reed, & Stubbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:37 PM) Personally, Pint just to get the deal done. He's super talented himself, just further away and without a TJS to boot. Rockies are clearly trying to win now. We may run into a similar wall like the Musgrove from the Astros ask. I think in any of these deals, the more MLB ready guys you try to take from teams trying to win now, ultimately the less you'll get back in terms of quality or quantity on the back end of these deals. They're also less likely to pull the trigger too. Feels that way to me, anyway. We can take Pint anyways, with some of the other close arms we now have. I don't feel like having someone who might be a force in 4-5 years is necessarily a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 03:34 PM) Also need to find a young catcher. Who's this Stubbs I'm hearing about? Is he all glove? Astros number 30 prospect. Not all glove, 50 hit tool with no power. High defensive marks. Severino from Washington is more elite all glove type. I'd target em both... Robertson and Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 05:31 PM) Would people here rather have Pint or Hoffman as a second piece behind Rodgers? Personally, Pint. With the amount of starting prospects on the team, I'd go for the one with the higher ceiling and longer ETA. We do know that the Sox loved Hoffman going into the 2014 Draft, so they may still see something they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 06:42 PM) Astros number 30 prospect. Not all glove, 50 hit tool with no power. High defensive marks. Severino from Washington is more elite all glove type. I'd target em both... Robertson and Q. Nice info thanks man! I'm hoping STL comes for Nate Jones and we can nab Kelly from them in a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxcessful Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 05:44 PM) Personally, Pint. With the amount of starting prospects on the team, I'd go for the one with the higher ceiling and longer ETA. We do know that the Sox loved Hoffman going into the 2014 Draft, so they may still see something they like. Outside of Melkiy I don't see Hahn trading for prospects with a projection later than 2018,especially not for Quintana who he has thru 2020. Both trades to date have early projectables outside of basabe and Diaz. The pressure is on the buyers who want to win now but there is subtle pressure on Hahn to win soon and a 2020 projectables like pint Rodgers etc won't guarantee Rick a job after three losing years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 06:31 PM) Would people here rather have Pint or Hoffman as a second piece behind Rodgers? I'd prefer Pint, personally. Healthy track record and a stunning resemblance to Seth McFarland. Win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 07:13 PM) I'd prefer Pint, personally. Healthy track record and a stunning resemblance to Seth McFarland. Win-win. Giggity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 05:42 PM) Astros number 30 prospect. Not all glove, 50 hit tool with no power. High defensive marks. Severino from Washington is more elite all glove type. I'd target em both... Robertson and Q. Stubbs is ranked #10 in Baseball America's rankings for the Astros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 06:25 PM) Stubbs is ranked #10 in Baseball America's rankings for the Astros. Is that updated or an old list? I saw him listed as 30 on mlb.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) Is that updated or an old list? I saw him listed as 30 on mlb.com. Most likely updated. Baseball America have been updating their lists for the last month I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yahoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (Soxcessful @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Outside of Melkiy I don't see Hahn trading for prospects with a projection later than 2018,especially not for Quintana who he has thru 2020. Both trades to date have early projectables outside of basabe and Diaz. The pressure is on the buyers who want to win now but there is subtle pressure on Hahn to win soon and a 2020 projectables like pint Rodgers etc won't guarantee Rick a job after three losing years Yeah, but you start out to run out of teams that are willing and able to give up that kind of bounty. At some point, you may have to sacrifice for guys with a little later ETA in order to get the kind of impact that you're looking for. Besides, I do like the diversity of different ETAs as well. Not everyone needs to be ready in the next year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 11, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) Is that updated or an old list? I saw him listed as 30 on mlb.com. The Baseball America list is for 2017, I don't believe MLB.com has really updated their list yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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