Con te Giolito Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Are any of the Yankees positions player prospects just raking the ball in the minors? Is there a potential Kris Bryant type bat in their system? Are there any sure bets out of their top ten prospects? I'd rather have one premier prospect than a bushel full of minor leaguers who may or may not make it very far in the bigs. Honestly, the closest thing there is to a guy like that in baseball right now was acquired by the White Sox a couple weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The problem is you're not going to get multiple Rodgers/Swansons/Sanchezes in any deal. That's where you have to calculate Rutherford vs. Mateo, or Mateo vs. Rutherford...or Judge vs. both. Do you want proximity to the major leagues/HR mashing potential or to find all-around ballplayers that will fit with Moncada/Anderson/Basabe (potentially) and can play nearly every position on the field from an athletic standpoint. At any rate, both of the deals for Sale and Eaton provided two potential headliners, so one would think that Hahn would follow this same formula in constructing a deal for Q, knowing the even higher bust rate (especially for A ball players compared to AA/AAA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Any deal w'/ the Yankees prospects BETTER include Gleyber Torres. That kid is going to be a stud once he bulks up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 12:08 AM) Any deal w'/ the Yankees prospects BETTER include Gleyber Torres. That kid is going to be a stud once he bulks up a bit. I'm with you on Torres. He has to be in any deal. He is on the same level as Rodgers with the Rockies. You can start mix matching after that. I think the Yankees will ultimately pass on giving him up. I still think the Astros or Rockies make the most sense. I am worried about Martes headlining any deal. I think he could be a great relieve but with Fulmer and Lopez could be ticketed there as well. Tucker, Paulino, Reed and Daz Cameron would be an interesting haul. Again though, I am not sold as each of these guys have bust potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Is there any package out there with more potential upside (with TWO "co-headliners") than Torres and Rutherford? What would that package be? Dahl and Rodgers? Would Colorado even make that type of offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Quick question for Quinarvy. What are you thoughts on Yankees prospects Clint Frazier and Dustin Fowler. Been looking at both and to be honest I kinda prefer Fowler over Frazier. I'm guessing Fowler jumps into the top 100 when it comes out. Think I just like Fowler's overall tools better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 20, 2016 -> 09:04 PM) Things like this are where people take stats a little too literally. Sure he put up a .685 OPS. He did it at age 21 in High A ball, where he was nearly two years under the league average age. He struck out at a pretty low rate. He has insane speed. He has average power to go along with plus tools across the rest of the board. Regressing statistically is not what I would like to see from a supposed top 25 prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 6m The Pirates have worked hard to try to make a trade for Jose Quintana, whose modest contract is perfect for their budget size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feeky Magee Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Both Meadows and Glasnow probably too much to ask for, so give me OF Austin Meadows, SS Kevin Newman, RHP Nick Kingham and 3B Max Moroff. Would love Adam Frazier too but they probably don't want to subtract anything from their big-league roster. That gives you the #9 prospect in baseball, #42, their #10 prospect who I think would be much higher if not for an injury-hit 2016 and their #20 prospect who has been statistically quite good despite a low pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 If Buster is reporting that in the middle of the night, do you guys think discussions were happening at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 He also said Yankees and Sox haven't talked in weeks. Morosi's comments never had a specified time range so it can be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 05:23 AM) If Buster is reporting that in the middle of the night, do you guys think discussions were happening at that time I was wondering the same. Very stange timing. Maybe he is on vacation on the other side of the world somewhere. Ill keep an eye out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes please!!! I think a package of Austin Meadows, Kevin Newman, Mitch Keller and Yuedy Garcia sounds about right. That would fit the "95% of Sale" model and be a great depth trade with plenty of upside. Substitute Kingham in for one of the pitchers would also be fine. I've always thought the Pirates lined up so well w the Sox here, considering their payroll restrictions and inability to get a massive haul for McCutchen. Lack of frontline pitching has really been what's held them back of late. imagine Quintana in that ballpark w that defensive behind him. He'd be Cy Young contender good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 05:04 AM) Both Meadows and Glasnow probably too much to ask for, so give me OF Austin Meadows, SS Kevin Newman, RHP Nick Kingham and 3B Max Moroff. Would love Adam Frazier too but they probably don't want to subtract anything from their big-league roster. That gives you the #9 prospect in baseball, #42, their #10 prospect who I think would be much higher if not for an injury-hit 2016 and their #20 prospect who has been statistically quite good despite a low pedigree. After reading up on Keller I"m wondering if we could snag him and Meadows together. Either way Meadows would be a huge pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Maybe it'll be a similar situation with Sale? Where Hahn supposedly called Dombrowski before the winter meetings saying he was going to trade him essentially taking final and best offers. But instead of winter meetings, before the New Year? To possibly add some pressure on interested teams. Edited December 21, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) This is what I like to hear. I kind of felt like the Yankees interest was a bit overblown by media and fans, since they can easily add via FA, but PIT doesn't have that option, and they need pitching badly, unlike the Astros, who kind of need pitching but can add at the deadline. The trickle of rumors also may indicate that things are flowing again after the post meetings freeze. Glad to hear it, keep it coming, Meadows/Bell ++ baseline. Edited December 21, 2016 by daggins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Entering the offseason, I thought the Pirates could be the team most interested in Quintana (and actually prefer him to Sale) due to his salary and years of control. They also make a ton of sense as a trade partner because they have a near major league ready OF in Meadows who can headline a deal plus a ton of prospect depth to offer a quality package. If they plan to keep McCutchen, this rumor might actually make some sense and would be great news for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 06:26 AM) This is what I like to hear. I kind of felt like the Yankees interest was a bit overblown by media and fans, since they can easily add via FA, but PIT doesn't have that option, and they need pitching badly, unlike the Astros, who kind of need pitching but can add at the deadline. The trickle of rumors also may indicate that things are flowing again after the post meetings freeze. Glad to hear it, keep it coming, Meadows/Bell ++ baseline. Who would their 1B be if they traded Bell? Can't see them subtracting from their major league roster unless they have an obvious replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yeah I just looked at their top 30 on mlb/prospects. Bell is probably no go. Something like Meadows/Ke'Bryan Hayes/Elias Diaz/Yeudy Garcia or Stephen Brault might be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantl916 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 04:41 AM) Who would their 1B be if they traded Bell? Can't see them subtracting from their major league roster unless they have an obvious replacement. I think this is a good point. Should we trade w the Pirates I would assume that Bell, Glasnow and Hanson are all off the table because they're in the majors (especially Bell and Hanson). It makes too much sense for a deal to be centered around Meadows, Newman and other pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well good morning Wednesday! This is interesting to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 06:41 AM) Who would their 1B be if they traded Bell? Can't see them subtracting from their major league roster unless they have an obvious replacement. Still have Jaso and Freese to share time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Meadows, Newman, and Keller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Meadows and Keller fit with what the sox have been doing this winter. Top prospects in BA who are about 23 and younger. I'm just glad Meadows recovered from that gruesome eye injury. Big fan of his. His arm isn't that great, power is meh (although in our park can certainly help there) but that kid is an incredible player with instincts. Too bad they gave up Reese Mcguire though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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