SoxAce Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 As underrated as Singer is on this site, it'll piss me off if KW still has a hand in decisions that Hahn, scouts, etc have a consensus on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Are there spoilers in this chat tomorrow night, by the way? How does it operate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, SoxAce said: As underrated as Singer is on this site, it'll piss me off if KW still has a hand in decisions that Hahn, scouts, etc have a consensus on. You know I was the founder of Singer is underrated on this site about 26 hours ago. After seeing 89 mph fastballs and hanging sliders galore yesterday, I now don't blame people on here for being down on him. As for KW, it seems like he's the final auditor on all potential deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Are there spoilers in this chat tomorrow night, by the way? How does it operate? I won't be able to watch until like 830 tomorrow, so you better believe I will have my phone off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Are there spoilers in this chat tomorrow night, by the way? How does it operate? Yes. Picks come across on Twitter far before the TV feed. If people can't handle that, they should stay out of the thread. That's how we've operated the past few years anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Also, will 2nd round be televised? I know it has been past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, DirtySox said: Yes. Picks come across on Twitter far before the TV feed. If people can't handle that, they should stay out of the thread. That's how we've operated the past few years anyways. Thanks. I'll be sure to stay off until after we pick, then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, fathom said: Yes, he's my favorite hitter by far in this draft If they select India, where would you guess that he would be ranked, in the Sox Farm system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: Yes. Picks come across on Twitter far before the TV feed. If people can't handle that, they should stay out of the thread. That's how we've operated the past few years anyways. Yep this is exactly how its gone the last few years. Weren't people using spoiler tags last year in the draft thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Also, will 2nd round be televised? I know it has been past few years. I think they go to mlb.com after 30 picks. It changed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, BlackSox13 said: Yep this is exactly how its gone the last few years. Weren't people using spoiler tags last year in the draft thread? I don't recall that. I certainly didn't. Edited June 4, 2018 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: This is incredibly disappointing for not only the draft but the rebuild writ large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lillian said: If they select India, where would you guess that he would be ranked, in the Sox Farm system? Similar spot to Singer...6-7 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don’t know where I stand on the spoiler tags but I lean against it. The news travels too fast to regulate if you are already online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, bmags said: This is incredibly disappointing for not only the draft but the rebuild writ large I’m not sure we have any reason to believe KW would actually overrule Hostetler & Hahn though. Nick specially said that everyone provides an opinion on the 1st pick and it could simply be that KW sees it differently from the rest. I think these Fangraphs guys are playing up the drama a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, fathom said: Funny thing is if Sox do take Singer, MLB Pipeline will say it was best pick in the draft and KLaw and fangraphs will hate it BA and pipeline consistently rate high performing college pitchers higher and it’s a reason I think they are worse. Fangraphs at an overall level devalued pitching prospects and I think that’s correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not sure we have any reason to believe KW would actually overrule Hostetler & Hahn though. Nick specially said that everyone provides an opinion on the 1st pick and it could simply be that KW sees it differently from the rest. I think these Fangraphs guys are playing up the drama a little bit. I am dubious of this, as well. I do not think Hahn would have taken the role of the GM if KW could just swoop in and unilaterally go against a room consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not sure we have any reason to believe KW would actually overrule Hostetler & Hahn though. Nick specially said that everyone provides an opinion on the 1st pick and it could simply be that KW sees it differently from the rest. I think these Fangraphs guys are playing up the drama a little bit. And to play Devils Advocate, that audio sounded to me like they were told exactly what has happened with KW being able to have final say. They giggled about how few words they needed to use to express what's happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, fathom said: You know I was the founder of Singer is underrated on this site about 26 hours ago. After seeing 89 mph fastballs and hanging sliders galore yesterday, I now don't blame people on here for being down on him. As for KW, it seems like he's the final auditor on all potential deals. I also saw Fulmer dominate Virginia just a couple years ago in the CWS. Just never know with guys in college. Obviously I'm leading the Liberatore train, but since that ship is probably sailing, I don't think Singer is a bad pick at all, especially with that breaking ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m not sure we have any reason to believe KW would actually overrule Hostetler & Hahn though. Nick specially said that everyone provides an opinion on the 1st pick and it could simply be that KW sees it differently from the rest. I think these Fangraphs guys are playing up the drama a little bit. I tend to agree. If Singer is drafted though it’s going to be difficult to look at it without cross eyes. It’s not about even being right in the pick, it’s about following a sound process. These scouts followed out based on the criteria a KW oversaw, he should trust it. also not to be a Thad but I mean based on the Hostetler interview it could be Jerry right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Btw, what round will Sox take Sam Bordner, the Louisville closer? I predict the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, fathom said: Absolutely makes sense, as well as guys like JR and KW getting nervous about lack of starting pitching development. Covey and Lopez, Rodon back...four top RHP prospects in waiting, doesn't even include Giolito bouncing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, bmags said: I tend to agree. If Singer is drafted though it’s going to be difficult to look at it without cross eyes. It’s not about even being right in the pick, it’s about following a sound process. These scouts followed out based on the criteria a KW oversaw, he should trust it. also not to be a Thad but I mean based on the Hostetler interview it could be Jerry right? Could be, as I think Hostetler joked that Jerry only cares about first pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, fathom said: Btw, what round will Sox take Sam Bordner, the Louisville closer? I predict the 5th. I wouldn't be surprised if they take Josh Stowers, the Louisville OF. Chicago native and fits the recent draft tendencies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, fathom said: Could be, as I think Hostetler joked that Jerry only cares about first pick And that he wanted a college pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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