aboz56 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 !!!!!!!! That's all I can come up with to describe this haul. !!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien 2m2 minutes ago This from @Mike_Ferrin: "I could write poetry about Reynaldo Lopez." He's definitely a big fan of him and White Sox trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) People are overthinking the rebuild if you're worried about not getting position players at the moment. Up until this coming deadline the goal should be to acquire as much talent as possible. The chips will fall into place after that. If in 2 years our "problem" is that we have too much talented young pitching it can be solved pretty easily. Starting pitching is always easy to move later. This is key. At the end of the day, you can't have too many of a good thing during a rebuild. Our 2020 rotation isn't set. These pieces strengthen the farm and add trade value. I'm not going to say this is a Kenny/Rick thing. All I'm going to say is it certainly looks like someone else is in charge. Edited December 7, 2016 by Deadpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) Huh? If they really want they have massive chips left in Q and Rodon to trade for position players. This is what a rebuild looks like you get the most value you can, regardless of position, and sort it out later. Yeah you can always move prospect arms for prospect bats to a team rich in hitting prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:21 PM) Gotta say, this trade is impressive. Feels like an overpay on the Nats with both Giolito and Lopez. Eaton I think played a little above his head this year, and while I'll miss him, I see why the Sox moved him. I gotta say I find it funny that Drake's two biggest supporters are now both off the team. I'm sure it played less than a 1% role, but it is ironic. He played well over his head. Eaton is a nice player. He's also injury prone and coming off what is almost certainly his career year. He's on the wrong side of 27 now and the Sox just cashed him in at the perfect time IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Nightengale: So the #WhiteSox land the top position prospect and pitching prospect in a matter of 24 hours, and they haven't even traded Quintana yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) Huh? If they really want they have massive chips left in Q and Rodon to trade for position players. This is what a rebuild looks like you get the most value you can, regardless of position, and sort it out later. If this fails to the point where you are trading Rodon, you might as well contract this franchise. I already hate this. There is literally no reason to watch this team for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 ???? FU RIZZO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) My first reaction was I didn't like it, mainly because of no position player coming back. But once I saw who the pitchers were...wow. That is a good trade. Once it said "Giolito +", I assumed those other 2 would be low level guys. Did NOT expect Lopez and their 2016 1st RD pick. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:10 PM) We had good pitching. That wasn't the problem. Yes, but now that have backfilled it to ensure that we still have great pitching into the rebuild. The deals aren't done yet, but given the Sox ability to develop pitching, this is a good start. They likely have 3 offensive pieces of the future in place with Moncada, Collins, and Anderson, so supplementing that with a Q trade and in the draft will be big. I also think they could get some decent pieces out of a Frazier and Robertson trade that will supplement the core they are building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Christmas just came early Also, the kids can play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:21 PM) Nats fan: To me, the big thing about this is we got three guys who could be high upside. Yes, bust risk exists, but getting three high caliber players is fantastic. I like this haul as much, if not more, then the Red Sox haul and the combo makes me feel better then Sale in isolation. Still, a lot of work to go and obviously a lot of risk in what the club is doing (but hey...not like we are defending divisional champs or anything, haha). Very nice to see us, seemingly, take a very distinct and clear direction. I'm curious to see what else happens...Q obviously is most intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:21 PM) Our direction so far is to hope that we can get to the same point that we just were. All pitching, no hitting. That is a f***ing terrible direction. If we don't get hitting back for Q, Jones, Frazier...then we can be a little upset. Let's not forget we'll have our pick of two top collegiate hitters in 2018 and 2019...you add a Bryant, Schwarber, Happ, Benintendi...two of them, then you're really cooking. Obvious caveat is they have to hit on those two picks. No room for error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:23 PM) Nightengale: So the #WhiteSox land the top position prospect and pitching prospect in a matter of 24 hours, and they haven't even traded Quintana yet Epic. I love the balls on this FO right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I AM AT THE CHILDREN'S LIBRARY AND I WANT TO SCREAM BUT I CANT. WOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:22 PM) If down the line the Sox have too much pitching and not enough good position players its easy to trade from a stock of pitching depth. Almost EVERYONE could use pitching. The talent haul for Eaton here is ridiculous. Get the papers signed before the Nats come to their senses. See that's the fun part. We would need an insane amount of luck just to get the staff back to where it was, and then you still don't have any position players. That isn't helping this franchise at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:24 PM) If this fails to the point where you are trading Rodon, you might as well contract this franchise. I already hate this. There is literally no reason to watch this team for years. Seriously though everyone should pray for Jerry's great health the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:19 PM) Guys who are under control for 1 year and who could qualify for compensation if you traded for them now will not be worth more at the deadline. I am not sure those guys will qualify for compensation under the new system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:24 PM) If this fails to the point where you are trading Rodon, you might as well contract this franchise. I already hate this. There is literally no reason to watch this team for years. Dude I'm as excited as I've been in years. To me it feels like the early 90s again. Sox are loading up on young talent and if they can get a few studs out of like they did then it will set them up for a great run in the next decade. I get that you're disappointing to see favorites go but ripping the bandaid off has long been overdue on this roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Guys, this is a great f***ing trade. Beyond stoked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 #3 prospect, #38 prospect, and Nationals 1st Rounder in 2016 And people are upset?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Gives you some idea of the desperation to win in Washington before Harper departs. If Boston hadn't won in 2013, could have taken a swipe at Devers...but right now it's all a numbers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:27 PM) #3 prospect, #38 prospect, and Nationals 1st Rounder in 2016 And people are upset?!?! Top Ten farm system. Almost has to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 11:21 PM) Our direction so far is to hope that we can get to the same point that we just were. All pitching, no hitting. That is a f***ing terrible direction. I am having some difficulty figuring out who takes the field in 2017 and how many pitchers we have on the roster. I guess more trades for position players are possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 10:25 PM) See that's the fun part. We would need an insane amount of luck just to get the staff back to where it was, and then you still don't have any position players. That isn't helping this franchise at all. Did Moncada die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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