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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:05 PM)
Don't be surprised if he resurfaces on another network, or on some random cable channel, 6 months down the line.

They all get second chances, but the guy is 67, has a ton of money, his problem was no one would sponsor his show anymore. I don't see how that will be different somewhere else. Riding off into the sunset seems like a good plan.Maybe he picks a platform where he doesn't need sponsors, but if Fox News can take no more, it's going to make his reputation even creepier. I can't see him getting a network gig at least for a while.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:14 PM)
Well for one thing, that's an elbow attempt not a punch. DA make sure that SS now posts videos of ANTIFA throwing rocks and explosives into the crowd.

 

LMAO. You really should be embarrassed by your posts in this forum. Amazingly poor. Stick with the baseball.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:23 PM)
Coming from the guy who embarrassed himself yesterday and then made up his own conspiracy theory that was so egregious even the lefties around here had to call you out, I'll take that as a complement.

 

Whateves. I'm not falling for your ridiculous bait. Keep defending Neo Nazis who punch women, and get upset someone is laughing at a guy who whiffed on an elbow to someone's head and fell down because he was most likely being taunted for his racist views .

 

 

 

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 10:09 AM)
They all get second chances, but the guy is 67, has a ton of money, his problem was no one would sponsor his show anymore. I don't see how that will be different somewhere else. Riding off into the sunset seems like a good plan.Maybe he picks a platform where he doesn't need sponsors, but if Fox News can take no more, it's going to make his reputation even creepier. I can't see him getting a network gig at least for a while.

 

I could see him getting a deal on a premium cable channel (read: no ads) where he just does interviews with big names. The guy has pride and probably doesn't want to end his career on this note and at the end of the day, he has a huge following.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:41 PM)
Didn't you admit to lying about the bolded yesterday? Still using that line? Whatever works in your alternate universe again.

 

Wasn't upset at all. SS asked how someone could miss on a cheap shot punch like that. So I clarified that it wasn't a punch. Anyone with a lick of martial arts understanding could see that. I can play your card and say that his elbow was actually photoshopped but I don't spew unverified conspiracy and I don't have a dog in that fight.

No, you didn't and that was by design. Again, you went after his victim because apparently her doing porn was relevant to getting punched in the face. The Neo Nazism, the putting a gun to a cab driver's head for $43, irrelevant, the girl did porn. She's a deviant.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 02:28 PM)
Kind of like how Trump used "wiretap" when there isn't a phrase for modern spying

 

 

 

You're failing to realize that the guy was much less the story than the girl. Apparently he was known in some fringe circles already and had a criminal history that you've expressly noted. The verdict was settled that he was a scumbag as soon as he was identified. That being said, I still don't even know his name or his occupation. He's just a fringe character with a criminal history that popped a girl in moshpit that both sides were looking for.

 

The girl on the other hand was played as a victim by the media. When I saw the video for the first time I go "Oh my god that's awful" as I saw a girl get clobbered. Then I asked my friend who showed me the video whether he thought the guy knew she was a girl with her dreads and baggy clothes in the middle of a scrum. Then you look further into it and she's a bottle-wielding (insert your Alex Jones imitation here) crazy person who was on camera defending throwing explosives into crowds with old women. Furthermore, she posted on her social media page that she was looking to scalp her opposition. After that, reddit unfortunately showed me pictures of her at her job where apparently she's like a hairy fetish sub category of porn that I had no wishes of ever running into.

 

The difference here is I know they're both in the wrong and they're both idiots. I have never defended either. I've indicted both. You're defending this individual who, politics aside, we'd all agree is reprehensible on account of your political affiliation. Then you are accusing me of defending the other guy without any evidence, you then admitted you have no evidence, then accused me of doing it again, still with no evidence at hand. You're trying to paint me as something I am not while you die on the hill supporting your murder threatening, bottle-wielding, old lady hating, hairy porn actress from outside of Berkely just because you guys both are upset your candidate lost.

 

The girl was played the victim because she was the victim. There is video proof. Despite what you think, people who do porn can also be victims. You thought OMG this is awful, then realized she isn't conservative and does porn, so not so awful. Just re-read Alpha Dog and realize you are on his side. You then might want to take a shower.

 

Bottle weilding is rich. She had no bottle in the video. And if she was carrying a bottle for protection, how is that any worse than packing guns which you conservatives say lessens violence.

 

Provide proof she threatened this guy with a bottle.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 03:01 PM)
Someone doing porn doesn't bother me (as nasty as her spin on it is). You fail to realize I have acknowledged wrongdoing on both side. You keep trying to paint me as defending the guy but it didn't and hasn't happened. I have only condemned him which you ignore. You couldn't and haven't provided proof despite your lies. I feel as if these two were more disciplined and focused when they were younger they would have lived more fruitful and constructive lives where going to violent events isn't something you prioritize. I am good on this argument. You can ignore the facts with someone else.

 

Before going, I should note that no one is jumping in in your defense on this one. The people in here always defend the liberal POV and defend whoever is espousing it and being faced with an alternate opinion. They may jump in now to make it seem as though I am wrong, but the tight knit group who align with you politically called you on your conspiracy garbage and otherwise let you take this one on the chin. Have a good one.

I noticed no link. Phony. BTW, where is all the rabbit support? Only counts on one side in your world. Stick to baseball.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 03:29 PM)
I noticed no link. Phony. BTW, where is all the rabbit support? Only counts on one side in your world. Stick to baseball.

 

Because most people bored of this routine a long time ago and see it as pointless.

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Last night's election results showed a 22% swing in the electorate since Nov 8th. That's insane. Jon outperformed even the best polls by 3 points, and the most pessimistic by 9 points. The Dems got 49.5% of the vote last night, compared to 38% in Tom Price's last election. If it weren't for gerrymandering, today the GA-6 would be blue.

 

That said, I feel pretty good about Jon's chances vs. Karen Handel, who has lost every single GA election she's run in, from state legislature to senate to the governorship. Most recent polls have Jon at 48% to Handel's 47%. I'm hopefully going to be heading back for the run-off, because this was the most amazing campaign I've ever been involved with. We had more volunteers than the last 10 candidates in the race got votes... combined.

 

Power to the people, yall!

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QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 08:14 PM)
Last night's election results showed a 22% swing in the electorate since Nov 8th. That's insane. Jon outperformed even the best polls by 3 points, and the most pessimistic by 9 points. The Dems got 49.5% of the vote last night, compared to 38% in Tom Price's last election. If it weren't for gerrymandering, today the GA-6 would be blue.

 

That said, I feel pretty good about Jon's chances vs. Karen Handel, who has lost every single GA election she's run in, from state legislature to senate to the governorship. Most recent polls have Jon at 48% to Handel's 47%. I'm hopefully going to be heading back for the run-off, because this was the most amazing campaign I've ever been involved with. We had more volunteers than the last 10 candidates in the race got votes... combined.

 

Power to the people, yall!

 

A runoff like this I have no feel for. When there is a runoff that happens when an incumbent is running, I think they are close to toast. But this one, this is obviously a red district that could rally around a republican candidate, but the enthusiasm gap is very large, and Handel is walking a fine line of republican constituencies.

 

If Ossoff can repeat his turnout I think he gets 50%, I think election fatigue will hit this district, but on the other hand old people love voting.

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QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 08:14 PM)
Last night's election results showed a 22% swing in the electorate since Nov 8th. That's insane. Jon outperformed even the best polls by 3 points, and the most pessimistic by 9 points. The Dems got 49.5% of the vote last night, compared to 38% in Tom Price's last election. If it weren't for gerrymandering, today the GA-6 would be blue.

 

That said, I feel pretty good about Jon's chances vs. Karen Handel, who has lost every single GA election she's run in, from state legislature to senate to the governorship. Most recent polls have Jon at 48% to Handel's 47%. I'm hopefully going to be heading back for the run-off, because this was the most amazing campaign I've ever been involved with. We had more volunteers than the last 10 candidates in the race got votes... combined.

 

Power to the people, yall!

 

Just one of these outside groups spending money to influence the Georgia 6th election — Athens, Georgia-based Better Georgia Inc. — is headquartered within state lines. Better Georgia Inc.’s $1,070 in spending, all to support Democratic front-runner Jon Ossoff, accounts for less than one one-thousandth of overall non-candidate spending.

 

Said another way: When the candidates’ own campaign money is excluded, the Georgia 6th special election has attracted about one Georgia penny for every $10 in national cash, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis of federal campaign finance disclosures.

 

 

About $4 out of every $5 dollars Ossoff’s own campaign has raised from big-dollar donors — those giving more than $200 — come from outside of Georgia, according to a Center for Public Integrity analysis of federal campaign finance records. That’s a sign of the high stakes the race has for Democrats nationwide who are eager for a win.

 

This blew me away. That is 0.001% of money that was local in this election. It will be interesting to see what happens, as this race had 10 Republicans in it prior to the election. Now that there is one candidate to center on, I am sure the GOP will start pounding in the outside money in as well. Neither party nationally wants the headlines for a loss as each is going to claim it as a referendum if they win, and downplay it if they lose.

 

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/04/17/...0-national-cash

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 11:33 AM)
This blew me away. That is 0.001% of money that was local in this election. It will be interesting to see what happens, as this race had 10 Republicans in it prior to the election. Now that there is one candidate to center on, I am sure the GOP will start pounding in the outside money in as well. Neither party nationally wants the headlines for a loss as each is going to claim it as a referendum if they win, and downplay it if they lose.

 

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2017/04/17/...0-national-cash

 

Definitely. As bmags said, the enthusiasm gap is quite large. There's a pretty significant "Never Handel" contingent among Republicans in GA, because she's been such a disaster so many times, and Jon is moderate enough that he was able to garner decent GOP support even in the "primary". I spoke with numerous Republicans on the ground that wanted to send a message to Trump by voting for Ossoff. It's a pretty fascinating dynamic down there.

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There needs to be some research into what money raised actually tells us about the race vs what money deployed actually affects the race.

 

Ossoff is interesting for small donations, Bernie was more notable for small donations, clearly Trump as well.

 

But, is this money important at all or just a waste (i.e. subsidy for local media). And maybe that's good.

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