StrangeSox Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Terrorism is very bad, and that's why we're partnering with our friends the Saudis to e: seriously though, praising ISIS because they killed innocent Iranians instead of innocent Kurds or Syrians or Iraqis is absolutely disgusting and if the GOP had any sort of morality left, they'd drum him out of the party today. Edited June 12, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 09:29 AM) Terrorism is very bad, and that's why we're partnering with our friends the Saudis to e: seriously though, praising ISIS because they killed innocent Iranians instead of innocent Kurds or Syrians or Iraqis is absolutely disgusting and if the GOP had any sort of morality left, they'd drum him out of the party today. A sitting congressman called for supporting ISIS and it's not even making the news. Your link on here was the first I heard about it. I would assume he's not the only conservative getting excited about dead Iranians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 That same California Congressman might have more ties to Russia than the "Trump Seven." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 So, I see Bernie is criticizing the Democratic party again and people keep bringing up Corbyn. Has a single Bernie candidate won a contested election? Teachout didn't, Thompson didn't, Mello didn't, Quist didn't, etc. It's almost like he's the kiss of death. And he didn't get the popular vote in his election either. Meanwhile, the one that he derided in Ossoff has the best shot. Bernie is stellar for moral victories, but until he can start closing I would like to hear him stop being sanctimonious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Corbyn also got about 100x the s*** from both the media and his own party that Bernie did, and he still managed to win party leadership and make a huge turnaround for the whole labour party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The Democratic party should not be criticized. They are doing really good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 12, 2017 -> 12:11 PM) The Democratic party should not be criticized. They are doing really good right now. They 100% deserve to be criticized. Bernie deserves some of that criticism and is in no real position to try and act like only his movement can produce results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) Democratic Party is still sort of garbage but Bernie isn't a panacea. Corbyn showed the potential behind energizing a large youth vote behind a progressive/leftist platform with a real vision for the future, and that's something Democrats need to seriously look at going into the 2018 and 2020 elections. That's a good strategy for Democrats to take in a lot of places. Overall, though, if they take back a majority in the House or Senate, they're going to have to bring along blue dogs and suburban neoliberal democrats with them. e: they're also two distinct political systems with substantially different structures and political histories and cultures. I don't think Corbyn's platform would work too well in much of the US. e2: I think more centrist dems have a decent counterpoint, too, when you look at France. Corbyn had a very strong showing, but ultimately, he didn't win. Macron not only won the Presidency, his newly created political party took a large majority of the parliament. Edited June 12, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option...p;jumival=19310 Working Class vs. Wall Street Dems http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option...p;jumival=19321 Dems' neo-liberalism cannot defeat Trumpism The question is, without the Fillon scandal...would Macron's election have been possible? Not only that, but the pushback against Trump's proxy in LePen, whereas six months ago (before everyone had time to study Trump) the mood was much different globally and in Europe, in particular. These rapidly shifting winds almost caught May unaware...she's barely hanging on by a thread, as it stands. Edited June 13, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Report: The Cost of Protecting Education Secretary DeVos: $1M/Month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greg775 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I wonder how the kids feel being called "snowflakes" and I wonder how the parents who've spoiled little Jane and Johnny feel about their precious ones being called snowflakes. How did we create this generation that doesn't want to offend anybody and this generation that thinks comedians are bad cause they offend people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 We didn't, so please stop generalizing. And if we're going to generalize, the biggest snowflakes are the GOP right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 16, 2017 -> 07:38 AM) We didn't, so please stop generalizing. And if we're going to generalize, the biggest snowflakes are the GOP right now. Truest truth to ever truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'm not sure how you take a tweet making fun of older conservatives whining about a Shakespeare play and turn it into "kids these days!" but greg, uh, finds a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...y-losing-215271 As good a chance as any to be the next president...Jason Kander of Missouri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 06:15 PM) http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/201...y-losing-215271 As good a chance as any to be the next president...Jason Kander of Missouri Jason is pretty electric, but he would need another election cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 We're working our OSSES OFF here in GA6, but I'm not confident Ossoff wins this race, even though he's been ahead in every single poll. I think the baseball shooting may have done just enough damage to flip what was already going to be an insanely close race, but dammit I hope I'm wrong. In any case, three more days of knocking doors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jun 17, 2017 -> 11:16 PM) We're working our OSSES OFF here in GA6, but I'm not confident Ossoff wins this race, even though he's been ahead in every single poll. I think the baseball shooting may have done just enough damage to flip what was already going to be an insanely close race, but dammit I hope I'm wrong. In any case, three more days of knocking doors! One of the latest polls was +2 for Ossoff with margin of error at +/-3.5%...seems the final ten day trend is towards Handel, despite him peeling off 33% of Dem/Independent Trump voters from November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) GA-6 detailed analysis http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/18/g...f-handel-239650 https://www.yahoo.com/gma/rep-eric-swalwell...topstories.html Calif. Rep goes phone banking for Ossoff http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/18/politics/kfi...a-ad/index.html Conservative PAC uses extremely out of context quotes from Dreams of My Father to suppress African American vote in GA-6 Edited June 19, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I was so confident prior to last week's shooting. Now I'm 100% expecting a loss. All the numbers are going the wrong direction. Thank you, lunatic-left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) So two weeks of Democratic infighting nearly guaranteed if they lose despite spending nearly $30 million by the end of the campaign. The Sanders Wing will argue he was too plain vanilla, inoffensive and didn't fight hard enough for progressive issues so as not to offend mostly conservative constituents in that particular district. Hopefully the Obama "out of context" attack ads end up backfiring. Edited June 19, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:41 PM) So two weeks of Democratic infighting nearly guaranteed if they lose despite spending nearly $30 million by the end of the campaign. Hopefully the Obama "out of context" attack ads end up backfiring. I can't wait to hear about how Ossoff wasn't progressive enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:43 PM) I can't wait to hear about how Ossoff wasn't progressive enough which will piss me off to no end, because anyone who says that knows nothing about the demographics of this district. But it's a fun headline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2017 -> 08:41 PM) So two weeks of Democratic infighting nearly guaranteed if they lose despite spending nearly $30 million by the end of the campaign. The Sanders Wing will argue he was too plain vanilla, inoffensive and didn't fight hard enough for progressive issues so as not to offend mostly conservative constituents in that particular district. Hopefully the Obama "out of context" attack ads end up backfiring. All we can do is hope our massive ground game and GOTV effort is enough to outweigh the BS. They timed all of this brilliantly though, down to the fact that both elections took place after holiday weekends, so as to hurt the effectiveness of canvassing and GOTV. People are none to pleased to talk to folks on Easter or Father's Day. Gotta hand it to the GOP, they're brilliantly conniving. Fortunately, what we're doing is working, it's just a matter of if it'll be enough. There's a definite hidden Ossoff vote, but probably not a lot. Talked to a few african americans today who said they're not telling anyone, and they're keeping it quiet, but they're voting for Jon. 2017 y'all. Sigh. Edited June 19, 2017 by Reddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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