Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) There are two separate punches. The bottle is (allegedly) present during the first one, not the second, more infamous one. Huh? Even in the shortened form of the video that only includes the second punch, she's not taking pictures; she's looking to fight. Because she was fighting moments before that. She was snapping pictures at the end of,the video. It is the same video the guy in the first link I gave said she had a bottle, but sh didn't. It was fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 01:05 AM) She was snapping pictures at the end of,the video. It is the same video the guy in the first link I gave said she had a bottle, but sh didn't. It was fake. At the end of the video, she's holding her face. I don't see any point where she's taking photos. You certainly haven't established that the picture is fake or that what appears to be a bottle in the video isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 08:47 PM) At the end of the video, she's holding her face. I don't see any point where she's taking photos. You certainly haven't established that the picture is fake or that what appears to be a bottle in the video isn't one. Look at the stills from the video in the second link. There is no bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 02:04 AM) Look at the stills from the video in the second link. There is no bottle. Again, that's the second punch, not the first. You can't tell me a picture of the first punch must be photoshopped because it doesn't match pictures of the second punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 7, 2017 -> 07:36 AM) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/target-boyco...-141019006.html Thought Greg would enjoy seeing his bathroom argument being validated by the Target boycott, which has cost them millions of dollars, and started from a single unauthorized Target corporate blog post (but didn't go through the CEO). Wow. Was watching Ben Shapiro speak tonight. You think my position on the bathrooms is wrong? You guys would scream and holler and shout if you heard what Shapiro says about transgender stuff. My position is mild compared to his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/us/fresno-ca...ings/index.html Hate crime in Fresno, 3 whites shot to death by African-American man due to racial animus (not political/terrorism related, although he apparently is Muslim). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 This is probably the best thing that Donald Trump will do in his four years in office. Of course it should be pretty telling that the one true model we have of government health care is so bad, that no one actually wants it. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/a...;utm_medium=RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:18 PM) This is probably the best thing that Donald Trump will do in his four years in office. Of course it should be pretty telling that the one true model we have of government health care is so bad, that no one actually wants it. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/a...;utm_medium=RSS I didn't think the results from Veteran's Choice were that great, though? That's not an argument on whether the VA itself is good, just that so far VC doesn't seem to be very effective at addressing the problems it was meant to. We have other models of "government healthcare," too. SCHIP, Medicaid and the very popular Medicare are all models of the sorts of programs many people push for and they are single-payer programs. Edited April 19, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The biggest problem with the program is still the VA itself. They still have to approve outside care, and much like inside care, they take way too long to make decisions. From your article The authorization and processing procedures averaged 32 days – 2 days longer than the VA standard of an appointment within 30 days. After receiving authorization the veteran had an additional average wait of 13 days to actually receive care. I can speak personally and say that my Dad was diagnosed with a leukemia from Agent Orange, and the need for a triple bypass in the same day in the same hospital visit. It took the VA 3 DAYS to decide which one to treat first, before they even started to review the actual treatment programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:32 PM) The biggest problem with the program is still the VA itself. They still have to approve outside care, and much like inside care, they take way too long to make decisions. From your article I can speak personally and say that my Dad was diagnosed with a leukemia from Agent Orange, and the need for a triple bypass in the same day in the same hospital visit. It took the VA 3 DAYS to decide which one to treat first, before they even started to review the actual treatment programs. Yeah like I said I wasn't defending the VA there, I had just remembered hearing an NPR interview probably back when that report was released with the bill's original sponsor who talked about the program not being as successful as he had hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:38 PM) Yeah like I said I wasn't defending the VA there, I had just remembered hearing an NPR interview probably back when that report was released with the bill's original sponsor who talked about the program not being as successful as he had hoped. It suffers from two major problems. #1, the VA has to approve outside care. Their red-tape is very infamous and really doesn't need further analysis. #2, the VA is very slow to pay, so much like Medicaid many providers are opting against providing care for people with this insurance program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 That could very well be, but without some changes to the program's core structure, it just doesn't seem like it's going to be very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2017 -> 12:43 PM) That could very well be, but without some changes to the program's core structure, it just doesn't seem like it's going to be very effective. Getting any care possible outside of the VA is a positive thing. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/status/855074319155724288 Chaffetz tells KSL News Radio that he may not even finish out his congressional term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Due to a legal technicality, the Pats might now owe Aaron Hernandez's family his contract. http://nypost.com/2017/04/20/patriots-now-...andez-millions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 20, 2017 -> 11:57 PM) Reddit has identified the Antifa guy who hit a free speech enthusiast in the head with a "u-lock" bike lock that left the guy hospitalized (happens 0:15). The guy is Eric Clanton and he is a Philosophy professor at San Francisco State University. He has since deleted multiple social media accounts. Why is it important that you note he is a philosophy professor? Are all philosophy professors violent, is that what you are saying? You are just posting that out there as a gotcha, you hypocrite! Sorry, gotta keep the post count going. They going cray cray in the D thread about something and are almost even with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) https://21southnews.com/2017/04/21/who-is-e...sorericclanton/ Reddit lies, lol. He's NOT a professor at SF State. He got his MA there. He's an adjunct professor at Diablo State. At any rate, God help anyone with social media in the future. These guys are contacting all the universities he studied at, going through his LinkedIn, just hope that nobody gets on the wrong side of those alt-righters. One of the student from DiabloValley College says that “He notice, Professor Clanton is a dislike Donal Trump and he would involve 2016 Election result protests in Bekeley or San Francisco elsewhere, but couldn’t confirmed. We call again to DVC and asking Professor but no one give answer and refuse to further question. And some people call DVC but they do not respond about Professor Clanton to anyone. Edited April 21, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 07:41 AM) https://21southnews.com/2017/04/21/who-is-e...sorericclanton/ Reddit lies, lol. He's NOT a professor at SF State. He got his MA there. He's an adjunct professor at Diablo State. At any rate, God help anyone with social media in the future. These guys are contacting all the universities he studied at, going through his LinkedIn, just hope that nobody gets on the wrong side of those alt-righters. One of the student from DiabloValley College says that “He notice, Professor Clanton is a dislike Donal Trump and he would involve 2016 Election result protests in Bekeley or San Francisco elsewhere, but couldn’t confirmed. We call again to DVC and asking Professor but no one give answer and refuse to further question. And some people call DVC but they do not respond about Professor Clanton to anyone. Eh. He is still a teacher, and not a Trump fan, who committed violence. And planned on more, as they dug up records of him receiving from Amazon the day before over a dozen of the bike locks he used to hit that guy. pretty sure he passed them out among his 'friends'. For peaceful purposes, no doubt. As for those alt-rights you are complaining about, ask judge Bork how he fells about having his past drug up? Don't act like this is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 07:46 AM) Eh. He is still a teacher, and not a Trump fan, who committed violence. And planned on more, as they dug up records of him receiving from Amazon the day before over a dozen of the bike locks he used to hit that guy. pretty sure he passed them out among his 'friends'. For peaceful purposes, no doubt. As for those alt-rights you are complaining about, ask judge Bork how he fells about having his past drug up? Don't act like this is new. There's a big difference between Bork's time and today...just look at the example of the Reasonable Sweater guy Ken at the presidential debates. How could anyone have access to his Amazon.com account? Who is they? Should we go through the records of all the pro-Trump protesters who brought knives or brass knuckles, too? Those with permits for handguns? Edited April 21, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 08:46 AM) Eh. He is still a teacher, and not a Trump fan, who committed violence. And planned on more, as they dug up records of him receiving from Amazon the day before over a dozen of the bike locks he used to hit that guy. pretty sure he passed them out among his 'friends'. For peaceful purposes, no doubt. As for those alt-rights you are complaining about, ask judge Bork how he fells about having his past drug up? Don't act like this is new. Well it seems awful a guy taking a U-lock to the head, but we do know you taught us the victim was there for a fight and a fight is what he got so he deserved it. I'm sure rabbit is working on what exactly the victim's profession is. It may be unsettling, and more reason to think being a victim of a crime is more than warranted. Edited April 21, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) The victim supposedly watched bondage pornography 16-18 hours per day and was receiving unemployment benefits. He deserves what he got. Edited April 21, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) Well it seems awful a guy taking a U-lock to the head, but we do know you taught us the victim was there for a fight and a fight is what he got so he deserved it. I'm sure rabbit is working on what exactly the victim's profession is. It may be unsettling, and more reason to think being a victim of a crime is more than warranted. Wrong. They guy that got hit was there for a rally. The person who hit him showed up there in response to the rally, so he was the aggressor. Just like the chick who got whacked. or are you suggesting that people just shouldn't have rallies anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:34 AM) Wrong. They guy that got hit was there for a rally. The person who hit him showed up there in response to the rally, so he was the aggressor. Just like the chick who got whacked. or are you suggesting that people just shouldn't have rallies anymore? I'm all for rallies, and really don't think this guy should have been hit on the head with a u-lock. But, since you justified another person protesting being sucker punched and said the reason she was there was to fight, it's not like this guy didn't know there would be opposition at the rally, so using your logic, he was there for a fight, and he got one, so no problem. A victim is a victim. There is no difference between this guy and the woman. What happened to both was criminal, and both people who committed these crimes should do some serious time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) I'm all for rallies, and really don't think this guy should have been hit on the head with a u-lock. But, since you justified another person protesting being sucker punched and said the reason she was there was to fight, it's not like this guy didn't know there would be opposition at the rally, so using your logic, he was there for a fight, and he got one, so no problem. A victim is a victim. There is no difference between this guy and the woman. What happened to both was criminal, and both people who committed these crimes should do some serious time. This isn't necessarily true. If they both showed up with weapons and were ready to use them neither is a victim. Rallies are good but not when people show up armed and ready to start the violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 09:29 AM) The victim supposedly watched bondage pornography 16-18 hours per day and was receiving unemployment benefits. He deserves what he got. That's justification for busting somebody in the head with a U-lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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