Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) Trade Melky to giants Trade Frazier to St louis Cardinals or new York Mets Trade Jose Quintana to the Pirates or Rockies Trade Abreu to Texas Rangers Idk if the Giants would bring Melky back though they certainly seem like a fit. I think they could match up on Frazier however. Nunez can shift to left field or a super utility role seeing playing time everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) What return could we have had if we blew it up at the trade deadline? You would have to think Benintendi would be ours had we dealt with Boston. Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, +? Edit: kinda off topic, apologies Edited January 6, 2017 by reiks12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) What return could we have had if we blew it up at the trade deadline? You would have to think Benintendi would be ours had we dealt with Boston. Benintendi, Devers, Kopech, +? Edit: kinda off topic, apologies You think red sox trade for Quintana 2017 trade deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) You think red sox trade for Quintana 2017 trade deadline? I don't see it unless Sale, Porcello or Price gets hurt. I do think they have the pieces if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 05:11 AM) Vietnam is next! Going to be in Hanoi for a week then its back home. Machu Picchu is definitely on my list. Long time in Hanoi. Be sure to hit up Halong Bay if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 07:11 AM) Vietnam is next! Going to be in Hanoi for a week then its back home. Machu Picchu is definitely on my list. After Peru, you may want to hit up Santiago, Chile and check out the Celinto Catayente. I hear that architect, Pat Healy, constructed it. It's just down the street from the Estadio Olympico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Maybe someone could visit Pittsburgh, Houston or Denver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 10:22 AM) Maybe someone could visit Pittsburgh, Houston or Denver? for what purpose? Lived in/near 2 of those cities the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) for what purpose? Lived in/near 2 of those cities the past year. We need you to bug the GMs offices for th Pirates and Astros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) You think red sox trade for Quintana 2017 trade deadline? Ah no I should have just started a different thread. I was talking about if we blew it up at the 2016 deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 10:29 AM) We need you to bug the GMs offices for th Pirates and Astros. The Astros have had about 2 words spoken about them for the last month. There's more coverage for what is going to happen to the Astrodome than what they're doing right now. Football and the Rockets, plus new coaches and bowl games. The Pirates...there's always talk about them during the winter even when the Steelers are doing well, but their fans are so used to the way that organization is run that it's an elaborate dance. Talk Radio will complain about them being cheap, they won't reply but they'll continue to make cheap moves, the ballpark will still have a good attendance even if the team is below .500 because it's a spectacular park, and lately the end result anyway has been a good but not great team that everyone sorta gels behind once the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Here's a terrible idea: a minor league circuit that is only classic astroturf stadiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The Astros offered the moon for Archer and got turned down. I would love to have a bug in that office to hear what kind of calls they are having with Hahn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 10:38 AM) The Astros offered the moon for Archer and got turned down. I would love to have a bug in that office to hear what kind of calls they are having with Hahn. Astros have played the whole "we will only trade for pitching at our price", and now come to find out they got turned down for a huge deal for Archer. I love it. They're either going to have to go into the season with their current staff or seriously pony up for Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I get that prospects are an inexact science but I find both of Gammons' insights to be hard to believe. Sox "light" offer to Houston turned down and houston's "heavy" offer to TB turned down. I'm more inclined to believe that Gammons is being phased out as an insider similar to his $20 bill likeness, Andrew Jackson and Rosenthal et al are the new Harriet Tubmans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Sticking with the new descriptor for this thread, here is a tourism video for place I suggested earlier, the Celinto Catayente...Towers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) Trade Melky to giants Trade Frazier to St louis Cardinals or new York Mets Trade Jose Quintana to the Pirates or Rockies Trade Abreu to Texas Rangers Starting with the very top line, the Giants supposedly don't have room under the luxury cap. Last I knew the Mets were fairly broke and didn't have room for another big contract either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 5, 2017 -> 11:29 PM) I agree completely. I think Hahn is being pretty firm that it's Bregman+ or no deal, as he rightfully should be saying. How can you trade an Allstar innings-eater on a peanuts deal for tablescrap prospects like Tucker/Martes as a headliner. What an absolute joke of a trade that would be. I would disagree. Hahn/KW got top ,non-MLB dependant, prospect from both boston and Washington in previous deals. They will not get Bregman or other players that playoff contenders are depending on for their upcoming season. The trades will be built around the top prospects not MLB players just as in the previous deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 08:32 AM) Trade Melky to giants - too many options on the FA market for th Giants to give up anything Trade Frazier to St louis Cardinals or new York Mets - Neither team has a hole or payroll space to take on Frazier Trade Jose Quintana to the Pirates or Rockies - Pirates allegedly do not have payroll space without moving Cutch, which seems to be the hold up, and the Rockies reportedly do not see Q as a fit for their park. Trade Abreu to Texas Rangers - Too many FA options available still to get a market to form I think Q is a guy that will always have a market, the rest will not until after the season starts, FA works itself out, and teams get into the season and see what they need to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 09:32 AM) The Astros have had about 2 words spoken about them for the last month. There's more coverage for what is going to happen to the Astrodome than what they're doing right now. Football and the Rockets, plus new coaches and bowl games. The Pirates...there's always talk about them during the winter even when the Steelers are doing well, but their fans are so used to the way that organization is run that it's an elaborate dance. Talk Radio will complain about them being cheap, they won't reply but they'll continue to make cheap moves, the ballpark will still have a good attendance even if the team is below .500 because it's a spectacular park, and lately the end result anyway has been a good but not great team that everyone sorta gels behind once the season starts. It's Texas. It's always football first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Laughing at the latest Yanks-Q articles and the comments that follow. Yanks fans want the best available pitcher in Q only to turn around and try to point out flaws to devalue Q and all the while talk about which of their prospects are untouchable. Good grief they are more unrealistic than Boston fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) Laughing at the latest Yanks-Q articles and the comments that follow. Yanks fans want the best available pitcher in Q only to turn around and try to point out flaws to devalue Q and all the while talk about which of their prospects are untouchable. Good grief they are more unrealistic than Boston fans. Pirates fans seem most reasonable due to desperation haha when the Sale talks were going on, there was an Astros fan that tweeted at WSD that Bregman is a future HOF. And Sale isn't? (assuming he stays healthy and keeps putting up the numbers he has) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinilaw08 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) Pirates fans seem most reasonable due to desperation haha when the Sale talks were going on, there was an Astros fan that tweeted at WSD that Bregman is a future HOF. And Sale isn't? (assuming he stays healthy and keeps putting up the numbers he has) Don't want to clutter the new thread, but if Gammons is right that the Astros are coming back with an offer for Q similar to the offer that was turned down for Archer (Martes/Tucker/Paulino + 2 other prospects), I suspect things will start to move quickly. Pirates can obviously beat that offer, but it will definitely put the pressure on the Pirates to make their best and final offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 12:28 PM) Don't want to clutter the new thread, but if Gammons is right that the Astros are coming back with an offer for Q similar to the offer that was turned down for Archer (Martes/Tucker/Paulino + 2 other prospects), I suspect things will start to move quickly. Pirates can obviously beat that offer, but it will definitely put the pressure on the Pirates to make their best and final offer. Martes/Tucker/Paulino/Perez would make me very happy. But I really like Tucker and Perez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 6, 2017 -> 12:23 PM) Pirates fans seem most reasonable due to desperation haha when the Sale talks were going on, there was an Astros fan that tweeted at WSD that Bregman is a future HOF. And Sale isn't? (assuming he stays healthy and keeps putting up the numbers he has) Yeah, Pirates fans are much more realistic and i wish a few of them were GM's. I read an article yesterday by a Pitt writer that said the Pirates should trade Meadows, Glasnow and Bell for Q. Man do I wish that guy was the Pitt GM.lol. Good call on the Astros fans. They say similar things about Q that the Yankee fans do. Quite humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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