southsider2k5 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) When is our private workout with him? The end of last week the workout was supposed to be "next week" (meaning this week) No word on where or exactly when that I have seen as of yet. Again, keep an eye on Kenny Williams here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 4, 2017 -> 12:48 PM) When is our private workout with him? All I have seen reported is that the Astros and Sox both have private workouts scheduled this week. I don't expect that we will hear much about these private workouts until he is signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I roll my eyes at Keith Law a lot, but he's not that high on Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:43 AM) I roll my eyes at Keith Law a lot, but he's not that high on Robert. Surprise, surprise. Lately, it seems like anyone with even the furthest ties to the White Sox isn't too great in his eyes. And any mediocre former Sox prospect, like Tatis Jr, is the next Trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Surprise, surprise. Lately, it seems like anyone with even the furthest ties to the White Sox isn't too great in his eyes. And any mediocre former Sox prospect, like Tatis Jr, is the next Trout. That does seem to be the trend lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Surprise, surprise. Lately, it seems like anyone with even the furthest ties to the White Sox isn't too great in his eyes. And any mediocre former Sox prospect, like Tatis Jr, is the next Trout. He ranked Michael Kopech as the best pitching prospect in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) He ranked Michael Kopech as the best pitching prospect in baseball. And ranked Moncada low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Can we all collectively accept that Law ranks prospects differently from the consensus and move on? It's really dumb to keep beating that dead horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Surprise, surprise. Lately, it seems like anyone with even the furthest ties to the White Sox isn't too great in his eyes. And any mediocre former Sox prospect, like Tatis Jr, is the next Trout. Keith Law has no White Sox bias. This is absurd. Michael Kopech is his 7th ranked prospect in all of baseball and #1 pitching prospect in the game. Law wasn't high on Moncada or Cespedes either. Edited April 6, 2017 by Y2JImmy0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Yeah, I don't doubt Law's opinions are genuine, but I do think he tries to be provocative, which is fine. I'm kinda happy somebody is saying "slow your roll" on Robert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) Yeah, I don't doubt Law's opinions are genuine, but I do think he tries to be provocative, which is fine. I'm kinda happy somebody is saying "slow your roll" on Robert. I don't think it is fine. He's supposed to be ranking prospects. If he is trying to be provocative then his rankings aren't valid. He is trying to create news not objectively rank players. There is a place to be provocative but a rankings list is not the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Law isn't only one low on Robert. Longenhagen didn't have a glowing report from last year either. He must also have a white sox bias, knowing when he scouted him last year that the sox might be remotely related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Keith Law has no White Sox bias. This is absurd. Michael Kopech is his 7th ranked prospect in all of baseball and #1 pitching prospect in the game. Law wasn't high on Moncada or Cespedes either. On pure potential, I would agree that Kopech's ceiling is as high as any pitching prospect in the game If healthy, and with further development and polish he could reasonably be a starting pitcher that brings mid to upper 90's heat, with a plus slider and developing changeup His floor is still a high leverage reliever, who can come out of the pen and blow you away with 100+ mph heat and slider combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) Yeah, I don't doubt Law's opinions are genuine, but I do think he tries to be provocative, which is fine. I'm kinda happy somebody is saying "slow your roll" on Robert. Yes, this pretty much Klaws schtick. His opinions tend to run counter to industry norms, but thats what makes his perspective intriguing and provides value to ESPN. He is right (and wrong) at about the same clip as every other prospect service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:41 AM) On pure potential, I would agree that Kopech's ceiling is as high as any pitching prospect in the game If healthy, and with further development and polish he could reasonably be a starting pitcher that brings mid to upper 90's heat, with a plus slider and developing changeup His floor is still a high leverage reliever, who can come out of the pen and blow you away with 100+ mph heat and slider combo Yeah, I think a lot of people see him as a Noah Syndergaard clone, and if falls short of that he can be a top tier closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 10:25 AM) Keith Law has no White Sox bias. This is absurd. Michael Kopech is his 7th ranked prospect in all of baseball and #1 pitching prospect in the game. Law wasn't high on Moncada or Cespedes either. One prospect doesn't mean that he has no odd anti-Sox trend about him lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 09:45 AM) Surprise, surprise. Lately, it seems like anyone with even the furthest ties to the White Sox isn't too great in his eyes. And any mediocre former Sox prospect, like Tatis Jr, is the next Trout. Jose, are you saying that IF the Sox had never traded Tatis, Jr, and IF he were still with the Sox, that Law would not have him ranked as high as he is now ranked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 12:25 PM) Jose, are you saying that IF the Sox had never traded Tatis, Jr, and IF he were still with the Sox, that Law would not have him ranked as high as he is now ranked? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I think its more that the Sox screwed up and traded a good prospect before he had a chance to show anything. Kudos to the Padres, I guess. Other publications are high on Tatis, its not like Law is alone. Why does there need to be a conspiracy or grudge? What happened to Occam's Razor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 12:37 PM) I think its more that the Sox screwed up and traded a good prospect before he had a chance to show anything. Kudos to the Padres, I guess. Other publications are high on Tatis, its not like Law is alone. Why does there need to be a conspiracy or grudge? What happened to Occam's Razor? You mean that he is just another guy out for money and notoriety? Always follow the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 11:41 AM) You mean that he is just another guy out for money and notoriety? Always follow the money. I was going to say that his 'bias' towards the Sox is because they historically suck at drafting and developing, but even your theory makes more sense than "He hates the WS". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) Yes. You are out of your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 6, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) You mean that he is just another guy out for money and notoriety? Always follow the money. I can't imagine there is a lot of money in trolling white sox fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 I don't know if he's as biased anymore. When KW was in charge, there was no question. I do think he has some sort of grudge and there is at least a chance a guy like Tatis was thrown into his top prospects as a dig. As to Robert, he isn't a White Sox yet, so I don't see a connection. If he signs somewhere else and Law's position shifts, then you have a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Ah yes. The Keith Law hates the White Sox narrative. Always good for a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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