southsider2k5 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Out of the guys who had down seasons last year, it's probably true that 1-2 of them should be expected to have solid seasons worthy enough to earn something in a trade. If we hold all of them, we also better be ready for 2-3 of them to have worse seasons and just eat the money spent on them. As long as we're ok with that as a franchise, then holding 5 guys and hoping 1-2 of them develop some value is a fair strategy. Guys having a bad year this year isn't really a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 08:49 PM) Guys having a bad year this year isn't really a bad thing. If they're going to do it, now's the year. I just don't like that i'm seeing lots of "all 5 of these people will have better years this year" posts around without a callout on how unlikely it is that it'll work out for multiple guys. Some of them yes, but it never works out that they all do, and you can't pick out in advance which ones it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I just don't like that i'm seeing lots of "all 5 of these people will have better years this year" posts around without a callout on how unlikely it is that it'll work out for multiple guys. ahem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Pittsburg Pirates: Austin Meadows (CF) and Tyler Glasnow (RHP) Atlanta Braves: Ozzie Albies (SS), Alex Jackson (OF), Sean Newcomb (LHP) and Kevin Maitan (SS) Houston Astros: Kyle Tucker (OF), Alex Bregman (3B), A.J. Reed (1B) and David Paulino (RHP) http://isportsweb.com/2017/01/25/chicago-w...ntana-continue/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:33 PM) http://isportsweb.com/2017/01/25/chicago-w...ntana-continue/ Lol, that Astros package would make me cry in happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 12:02 AM) Lol, that Astros package would make me cry in happiness. In defense of the click bait article's author, I think he said those were players from each team that would interest the Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:02 PM) Lol, that Astros package would make me cry in happiness. That astros package could start the conversation for trout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Best post made on here today. Honestly, Conte Giolito has become such a blowhard, he's made this site difficult to read lately. The admins should really consider giving him a few week time out. It's just brutal. bmags threw one strike already, and this is strike two. Personal attacks such as this will not be tolerated on this forum. Anything further will be met with consequences. In case we have forgotten: Personal attacks towards other posters will not be tolerated. People will be treated with respect at all times. SoxTalk Guidelines I have been absent for a while, and miss things from time to time, but I have yet to see or read anything Con te Giolito has said that has justified anything like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxforlife05 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 07:45 PM) Best post made on here today. Honestly, Conte Giolito has become such a blowhard, he's made this site difficult to read lately. The admins should really consider giving him a few week time out. It's just brutal. Just add him to your ignore list. Go to his profile and click options drop down on the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:33 PM) http://isportsweb.com/2017/01/25/chicago-w...ntana-continue/ Those Pirates and Astros offers aren't even remotely close to being of equal value. You'd have to add Bell and Newman to that Pirates offer to start comparing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 11:26 PM) bmags threw one strike already, and this is strike two. Personal attacks such as this will not be tolerated on this forum. Anything further will be met with consequences. In case we have forgotten: SoxTalk Guidelines I have been absent for a while, and miss things from time to time, but I have yet to see or read anything Con te Giolito has said that has justified anything like this. Strike two indicates tolerance - just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (heirdog @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 10:19 PM) In defense of the click bait article's author, I think he said those were players from each team that would interest the Sox yes there is no way the astros give up bregman AND tucker. the astros were even hesitant to trade tucker at all so they certainly do not give up both and more. i doubt they trade bregman at all but if they do it would be straight up (or bregman plus a bag of balls). i do think the astros have to give up tucker, martes and more but bregman, tucker and reed is completely unrealistic. maybe the author meant some of those guys but not the whole package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (GermanSock @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 05:13 AM) bregman plus a bag of balls. I'd hold out for a washing machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just a reminder...keep the name calling out of this. Lets stick to the topic at hand....that could go on for another 6 months, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:46 AM) Those Pirates and Astros offers aren't even remotely close to being of equal value. You'd have to add Bell and Newman to that Pirates offer to start comparing. Those are not offers but lists of players the Sox could be interested in. The White Sox reportedly have their eyes on the following prospects from each team: The list is incomplete since we've seen other names mentioned from all of those teams. I only posted it for reading purposes to pass the time. Nothing new or credible really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 For those who like the Braves as a trade partner, I have to ask how much do you like Kevin Maitan because while he's far away he has to be in any deal in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Maitan might pose a challenge to value in trade talks -- big upside, but also big risk and a long time until you see any payoff. I'd love him as a third piece. As a second piece, that's a little risky. Edited January 27, 2017 by bighurt574 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 05:12 PM) For those who like the Braves as a trade partner, I have to ask how much do you like Kevin Maitan because while he's far away he has to be in any deal in my opinion. If we aren't getting Swanson, Matian is a must for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaBrave Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 10:23 PM) Supposedly the Braves weren't willing to include him at all. Any idea what their offer looked like or if talks are ongoing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) If we aren't getting Swanson, Matian is a must for me. That would only make sense if the Sox see Maitan as a headliner. As a third piece Maitan would be a high price because he cost a large chunk of the braves international budget. Swanson is definitely off the board but a package of albies, Allard, acuna and some would be quite attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Maitan never made much sense to me for the Braves to trade or for the Sox to pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Braves might very well see him as a headline piece, given his upside. Probably not a good value for the Sox, given the risk (and their troubles developing hitters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 01:42 AM) Maitan never made much sense to me for the Braves to trade or for the Sox to pick up. Maitan. Don't know much about him, other than what has been posted here in last few weeks. Is he better than Tatis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 06:55 AM) Maitan. Don't know much about him, other than what has been posted here in last few weeks. Is he better than Tatis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 For those who would like to obssess over a new teams farm system, complete conjecture over a new team that should try to acquire him: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-new-jose-quintana-idea/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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