Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 02:22 PM) We have not had any indication that talks have advanced or that any deal for Quintana is close Offers have been exchanged, but neither the Pirates or Astros are blinking as of yet The Rangers rumor appeared to be a White Sox generated leak to stir the pot Nightengale said that Houston and White Sox are re-engaged on talks. Levine has been saying for weeks that Q goes before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) Nightengale said that Houston and White Sox are re-engaged on talks. Levine has been saying for weeks that Q goes before the season starts. I don't think it is a matter of "close" or not, but more about who blinks first. Both teams probably know the others demands well by now. It is all a matter of who is going to step down from that price to meet the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 02:36 PM) I don't think it is a matter of "close" or not, but more about who blinks first. Both teams probably know the others demands well by now. It is all a matter of who is going to step down from that price to meet the other. With things like comp picks or international bonuses possible, it could be a more creative and strange negotiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 11:06 PM) At least my divorce was finalized yesterday. Two years of court appearances to end a 4 year marriage. Talk about a nightmare. So relieved that I don't have to wear a lawyer hat anymore... it's gonna take a good couple weeks for me to sink into life without all of that nonsense. Just gotta send her some more money and pay some back taxes... then the only tie I'll have with her is our son. Good riddance - mistakes in choosing a mate aren't easily amended. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) With things like comp picks or international bonuses possible, it could be a more creative and strange negotiation. To be clear, comp picks can only be traded in season. So this pick from the Cards CANNOT be traded until after the first pitch of the season. Also International money can only be traded during that period of time. The only thing we can acquire now is for the period of time BEFORE July 2, 2017, and that class is pretty much gone. The only use that MIGHT have is if there is someone from a place like Cuba that we like (say like Ralph) and that money made the difference. If we are talking about a trade before opening day neither a comp pick, nor 2017-18 international signing money can be in a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sounds like the Astros owner is seeing those picks as a way to help replenish their farm after trading prospects away for a pitcher. Sounds about right since those picks cannot be traded at this time. Maybe those picks loosen up Luhnow's pucker enough to actually get a deal done for Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 If the Sox are committed to trading Q before spring training then it will he Hahn who blinks first. Strange that we'd be signalling to anyone that that's the plan (if true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Sounds like the Astros owner is seeing those picks as a way to help replenish their farm after trading prospects away for a pitcher. Sounds about right since those picks cannot be traded at this time. Maybe those picks loosen up Luhnow's pucker enough to actually get a deal done for Q. His pucker? What kind of negotiator is Rick Hahn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) To be clear, comp picks can only be traded in season. So this pick from the Cards CANNOT be traded until after the first pitch of the season. Also International money can only be traded during that period of time. The only thing we can acquire now is for the period of time BEFORE July 2, 2017, and that class is pretty much gone. The only use that MIGHT have is if there is someone from a place like Cuba that we like (say like Ralph) and that money made the difference. If we are talking about a trade before opening day neither a comp pick, nor 2017-18 international signing money can be in a deal. I could have sworn seattle just traded bonus pool amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) I could have sworn seattle just traded bonus pool amounts. Seattle traded a current bonus pool slot (2016-2017, and not 2017-18) to Texas back in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) I could have sworn seattle just traded bonus pool amounts. IT was Rockies/Cubs trade. Any idea what difference is here? "The teams will also be swapping international bonus slots for the 2016-17 signing period: the Rockies will acquire slot No. 28 in exchange for slot No. 74, increasing their overall pool by $211,800." http://www.purplerow.com/2017/2/1/14474290...er-chicago-cubs EDIT: nvm it's what you said, 2016-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) I could have sworn seattle just traded bonus pool amounts. Cubs just traded their "28th overall" top international bonus slot to the Rockies this week. I can't find where it says otherwise but it has to be their 16-17 period since they were third best team in 15 (I guess making them the 28th overall reverse standings wise). Edit: ok you found it haha Edited February 3, 2017 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 And as an extra step of research, it does appear the Astros are at or above their 2016-17 international spending pool. They only had $2.1 million to start, and I see signings of $1.2 million, plus 450k and 480k along with a decent amount of unlisted signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 QUOTE (reiks12 @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) His pucker? What kind of negotiator is Rick Hahn? No need to ask, he's a smooth operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Levine reiterating what he wrote a few days ago but the first sentence of the article is what got me. So Q getting traded is now a fact? That's pretty bold. I'm usually rather critical of Levine but he has remained consistent in regards to Q so perhaps he knows more than he's allowed to say? We will know soon enough I guess. The fact that White Sox left-hander Jose Quintana will be traded soon is a forgone conclusion. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/02/03/lev...-white-sox-ace/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) This article is from a few days ago. Might be the same stuff. Good point and I think you're right. Didn't realize til after I posted the article but I think I read this the night before it came out so it seems as though the article was new to me. Man, I really need to stop reading so much on Q talks. Pretty bad when I can't remember what I've already read. Need to unscramble my brain,lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Q traded during half time of the super bowl. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Q traded during half time of the super bowl. Book it. So you're saying you have a feeling something's gonna happen soon? I wish I'd trademarked that a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 03:23 PM) So you're saying you have a feeling something's gonna happen soon? I wish I'd trademarked that a few weeks ago. months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Q traded during half time of the super bowl. Book it. No, this cannot be allowed to happen during the Puppy Bowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 So which Quintana thread are we all supposed to complain and waste each other's time in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 No wrong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) Q traded during half time of the super bowl. Book it. It'd be fitting for Q to be traded at the one time no one would notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 What's the purpose of Levine writing such a definitive statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Feb 5, 2017 -> 07:22 PM) What's the purpose of Levine writing such a definitive statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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