hi8is Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 10:28 AM) How is Kopech a dbag for throwing hard? It's not about him throwing hard -- it's his demeanor and attitude. Some humility will eventually do him good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 12:34 PM) It's not about him throwing hard -- it's his demeanor and attitude. Some humility will eventually do him good. Yea some of his vine/insta/etc videos with his plastic girlfriend are awful to me personally. But he is still very young. Kid has some maturing to do obviously as a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 12:31 PM) It's not that. It's the whole persona that he's putting out there, as a AA pitcher. Kopech needs to mature a bit, he is a risky prospect, but one with big upside His control and secondary stuff need time, but I could see him pushing for a call up in late 2018 if he continues to develop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I dont have a problem at all with Kopech's attitude. He's a pitcher not a politician. Dont you want him to be obsessed with fitness and competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I don't know, so long as Kopech attitude doesn't involve publicly throwing teammates/coaches/team under bus constantly I wouldn't mind a bigger personality. Big arrogant long-haired texan throwing 100+? Sure, that's what makes sports fun. That is to say, unless he sucks. If he sucks then its a problem because sucky players should just be sulking about how much they suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 12:40 PM) I dont have a problem at all with Kopech's attitude. He's a pitcher not a politician. Dont you want him to be obsessed with fitness and competition? His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher. Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information. I heard something similar, but he threw a punch regardless. I'm not trashing the kid between the lines, I love some attitude on the mound during a game. I am just pointing out there is some cause for concern over the off the field stuff and I hope it doesn't hold him back any further than it already has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This team has been so lifeless and boring I'll gladly welcome a mean spirited mfer on the mound throwing gas and talking smack. Who knows if Kopech even is that kind of guy on the mound though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 01:03 PM) His attitude wouldn't be a problem if he had a clean record. He was suspended for 50 games for a PED in 2015 and then missed time last year when he broke his hand on the face of a teammate. His off the field attitude is directly impacting his on the field performance as a pitcher. This. It is the same reason that Chris Sale started to get attention for his attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough. Edited January 17, 2017 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough. Yeah, unfortunately acting like Nick Swisher is now the norm, and not the exception. Millennials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If things don't work out for Kepech in baseball he could have a great career in the game of Cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough. This. Not sure why some of you guys are hating on him. I don't care if he thinks he's a badass if the results are there. The sky is the limit for him as far as potential goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) I don't know if its his attitude so much. Based on the social media I've seen, he kinda comes off as a tool. But then again, anyone 21 or younger seems to in some way. I don't really care as long he can pitch. Edited January 17, 2017 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:07 PM) If we're going to hate on talented, cocky, young kids then this rebuild is really going to be tough. I wouldn't call it hate. I would call it recognizing something that could hold him back from realizing his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) I wouldn't call it hate. I would call it recognizing something that could hold him back from realizing his potential. Yours is a very reasonable, nuanced position. I hope he can be Jack McDowell 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 01:06 PM) Seems like the fight wasn't his fault based on all publically available information. Not to excuse or defend him, but I just got a flashback to a time when *another* 100+ flamethrower from Texas retaliated by throwing punches at a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (SpringfieldFan @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) Not to excuse or defend him, but I just got a flashback to a time when *another* 100+ flamethrower from Texas retaliated by throwing punches at a player. Luckily Robin isn't our manager anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:12 PM) Yours is a very reasonable, nuanced position. I hope he can be Jack McDowell 2.0 Or Chris Sale for that matter. Not saying it can't be done, but is definitely something that can hurt players. I remember a story about Jeff Weaver starting a brawl, and everyone hated him so much that no one wanted to leave the dugout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 "For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now: I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job" -- @miachaelkopech5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 04:21 PM) "For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now: I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job" -- @miachaelkopech5 Lol that's great. And seriously, why do people wish injury onto players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 FWIW, he deleted the tweet and apologized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con te Giolito Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 "For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now: I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job" -- @miachaelkopech5 See thats good I like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 04:31 PM) FWIW, he deleted the tweet and apologized. The politically correct police win again... There was nothing wrong with that tweet. I actually laughed at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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