President Donald Trump: The Thread

[Steve9347]

Answer: large ego is not a sign of intelligence.

 

Also, you act as if he earned all of his money by great deals. Drumpf bankrupts everything he touches, I would ask you to turn down Rush and actually do some research on this human piece of garbage that you defend so passionately

You are so annoying. Stop arguing with him for f***'s sake. i saw 100 new posts in this thread and thought s*** went down. I cannot f***ing believe it's because some clowns took greg's bait for the thousandth time.

[Kyyle23]

You are so annoying. Stop arguing with him for f***'s sake. i saw 100 new posts in this thread and thought s*** went down. I cannot f***ing believe it's because some clowns took greg's bait for the thousandth time.

 

Well thank you Steve

[Jenksismyhero]

Also, we really don't know if Trump's net worth is billions or not. We have no idea. He could be leveraged to the hilt.

 

True. I was using Forbes' estimate from a couple of months ago that had him at 3.5 based mostly on his real estate holdings.

 

[StrangeSox]

Bradd Jaffy ✔ @BraddJaffy

Trump floats canceling WH briefings & doing them himself once every 2 weeks; complains about “level of hostility … [spicer] gets beat up” https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/863109918928142336 …

2:19 PM - 12 May 2017

 

*crosses fingers*

[Steve9347]

Well thank you Steve

No, it's hilarious. If that's how you want to pass your time, get the f***ing dude's cell phone number. I cannot believe people still respond like they can make a difference. He's clearly a Russian troll at this point.

[Kyyle23]

No, it's hilarious. If that's how you want to pass your time, get the f***ing dude's cell phone number. I cannot believe people still respond like they can make a difference. He's clearly a Russian troll at this point.

 

Strange that we are arguing on a message board I know. Can't comment on the Russian troll part tho

 

Lots of s*** going on and lots of people arguing but my bad for starting it all

[Steve9347]

Strange that we are arguing on a message board I know. Can't comment on the Russian troll part tho

But you HAVE to realize what you type is just a waste of your time and of space on this site, right? You aren't going to get through to him. It's clear he's here to rile you up. Stop taking the bait and muddying the waters of this thread that have otherwise provided some pretty good updates on the situation at hand.

[Steve9347]

It's embarrassing for you. An otherwise legendary Message Board Poster felled by the Russian troll.

[Kyyle23]

But you HAVE to realize what you type is just a waste of your time and of space on this site, right? You aren't going to get through to him. It's clear he's here to rile you up. Stop taking the bait and muddying the waters of this thread that have otherwise provided some pretty good updates on the situation at hand.

 

Dude, come on now. I absolutely realize that his mind will not be changed, everyone knows that. That doesn't mean I can't at least ask the guy why he feels that way.

 

This thread isn't going anywhere people are still posting things. I know you are annoyed with going through new posts but damn, don't act like you haven't gotten in a stupid argument on ST and kept going just because

[Soxbadger]

It's embarrassing for you. An otherwise legendary Message Board Poster felled by the Russian troll.

 

I think at one point weve all wanted to believe that Greg was actually listening as he appears to be a reasonable good person. But eventually I think we all reach a point where we realize that no amount of words is going to change things.

[Kyyle23]

Calling him a Russian troll is pretty hilarious tho

[Soxbadger]

Calling him a Russian troll is pretty hilarious tho

 

Yeah, I dont think it has anything to do with Russia.

 

Russia is just the flavor of the month.

[StrangeSox]

I know arguing with greg is pointless, but I'd like to submit another piece of evidence for consideration that Trump is, in fact, literally human garbage:

 

In the 1980's, he took out a full-page ad in the NYT calling for the execution of the Central Park Five. This group of teens was bullied and pressured by the police into giving false, contradictory confessions and were sentenced to decades in prison. Trump is credited with helping to drive the media and popular furor over this group.

 

In 2002, a confession from the actual perpetrator and DNA testing exonerated all five and they've since been released. Ken Burns even made a documentary on it.

 

Trump stood by his call for their execution and rejected their being released in October 2016.

 

Literal human garbage is too kind, honestly.

[BigSqwert]

I know arguing with greg is pointless, but I'd like to submit another piece of evidence for consideration that Trump is, in fact, literally human garbage:

 

In the 1980's, he took out a full-page ad in the NYT calling for the execution of the Central Park Five. This group of teens was bullied and pressured by the police into giving false, contradictory confessions and were sentenced to decades in prison. Trump is credited with helping to drive the media and popular furor over this group.

 

In 2002, a confession from the actual perpetrator and DNA testing exonerated all five and they've since been released. Ken Burns even made a documentary on it.

 

Trump stood by his call for their execution and rejected their being released in October 2016.

 

Literal human garbage is too kind, honestly.

 

Amen brother. A perfect example.

[Jenksismyhero]

When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing https://t.co/SIoAxatCjp

— Sarah Huckabee (@SarahHuckabee) November 3, 2016

 

[Soxbadger]

When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing https://t.co/SIoAxatCjp

— Sarah Huckabee (@SarahHuckabee) November 3, 2016

 

I will never understand how he thought firing Comey right now would play out good for him.

 

Even if he did nothing wrong, it looks suspicious and just invites more questions.

[StrangeSox]

[StrangeSox]

[StrangeSox]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/guess-...4b00ccaae9ea22e

Attorney General Jeff Sessions made it official. The federal government will now reboot its war on drugs. The official word came down in the form of memos from Sessions that ordered federal prosecutors to cease and desist on the soft approach former Attorney General Eric Holder took toward prosecuting petty drug offenders. Now prosecutors must demand the harshest sentence, must use the threat to harshly pile on sentence enhancements to browbeat drug offenders into copping a guilty plea, and they must itemize the drugs an offender uses to insure they are slapped with the minimum mandatory sentence.

 

Sessions isn't just talking about cracking down on the use of the hard stuff. He has a near paranoid obsession with pot. He has railed against its use, thinks it's one of the worst drug evils, and is convinced it is undermining the nation's morals. Sessions has long chomped at the bit to cop the title as America's number one drug warrior. He took giddy delight as a federal prosecutor and a U.S. Attorney in putting the hammer to drug offenders whenever he could. Sessions would likely scoff at the frank admission by disgraced Nixon White House advisor John Ehrlichman, in an interview in Harpers in 1994, that the war on drugs was not about law enforcement getting a handle on drug sales and use, but another weapon to lock up as many blacks as possible.

 

From its inception in the 1970s, the war on drugs has been a ruthless, relentless and naked war on minorities, especially African-Americans. Former President Obama and Holder got that. And they made it clear that it was time to rethink how the war was being fought and who its prime casualties have been. They pushed hard to get Congress to wipe out a good deal of the blatantly racially skewed harsh drug sentencing for crack versus powder cocaine possession and to eliminate minimum mandatory sentencing. Congress didn't finish the job and as long as Sessions is in the driver's seat at the Justice Department it won't. The Obama and Holder reforms in low level drug prosecutions did produce positive, and dramatic results. The number of minimum mandatory sentences imposed plunged, and there was much more reliance on drug counseling and diversion programs for petty offenders.

 

You can kiss that good-by with Sessions. Even though countless surveys have found that whites and blacks use drugs in about the same rate, more than 70 percent of those prosecuted in federal courts for drug possession and sale (mostly small amounts of crack cocaine) and given stiff mandatory sentences are blacks. Most those who deal and use crack cocaine aren't violent prone gang members, but poor, and increasingly female, young blacks. They clearly need treatment not long prison stretches. Obama and Holder understood that.

 

The fed war on drugs before Obama and Holder, and now reignited under Sessions, targeted blacks for a good reason. The top-heavy drug use by young whites -- and the crime and violence that go with it -- has never stirred any public outcry for mass arrests, prosecutions, and tough prison sentences for white drug dealers, many of whom deal drugs that are directly linked to serious crime and violence. Whites unlucky enough to get popped for drug possession are treated with compassion, prayer sessions, expensive psychiatric counseling, treatment and rehab programs, and drug diversion programs.

 

A frank admission that the laws are biased and unfair, and have not done much to combat the drug plague, would be an admission of failure. It could ignite a real soul-searching over whether all the billions of dollars that have been squandered in the failed and flawed drug war -- the lives ruined by it, and the families torn apart by the rigid and unequal enforcement of the laws -- has really accomplished anything.

 

This might call into question why people use and abuse drugs in the first place -- and if it is really the government's business to turn the legal screws on some drug users while turning a blind eye to others?

 

The greatest fallout from the nation's failed drug policy is that it has further embedded the widespread notion that the drug problem is exclusively a black problem. This makes it easy for on-the-make politicians to grab votes, garner press attention, and balloon state prison budgets to jail more black offenders, while continuing to feed the illusion that we are winning the drug war.

 

This means little to Sessions. In his fundamentalist, self-righteous, puritanical world, drug users are the scourge of the nation. They must be swiftly and mercilessly removed from the streets, workplaces, schools, and any other place that their presence subverts the good upstanding morals of the nation. Sessions said as much in a memo when he claimed that his tough drug crackdown will "advance public safety, and promote respect for our legal system." It will do neither. It will balloon prison building, the hiring and maintaining of waves of corrections officers, and further bloat state budgets. But worst of all it will again do what it was always intended to do and that's be a war on minorities and especially blacks.

[BigSqwert]

Maybe he'll name Philipines President Duterte the new FBI director so that they can start murdering drug users.

[illinilaw08]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/guess-...4b00ccaae9ea22e

 

Isn't this the type of thing that should be very unpopular with Libertarians? Probably too much to hope for any level of bipartisan pushback...

[CrimsonWeltall]

Isn't this the type of thing that should be very unpopular with Libertarians? Probably too much to hope for any level of bipartisan pushback...

 

In 2017, this is very unpopular with most people.

[illinilaw08]

In 2017, this is very unpopular with most people.

 

Yeah, but most people aren't the law and order wing of the GOP that holds both chambers of Congress.

[StrangeSox]

Yeah too bad our federal government structure favors rural conservatives for House Senate and President

[caulfield12]

But who is/was smarter, Jesus or Trump?

 

That said, I'm not convinced even $5 million in 1980-1985 dollars get you anywhere even close to $1 billion through Vanguard indexing thirty years later.

 

Maybe if at different times you put all that money into Berkshire-Hathaway, Nike, Apple, Amazon, etc.

 

But even BRK stock has only returned 20.63% since inception, which is more than doubling the historical index numbers during that time period if you were completely exposed to the 1987, 1998-2002 and 2008-2009 stock market crashes.

 

$5,000 in Amazon.com without selling from 1997 until 2017 gives you roughly $5 million today...but it couldn't be accomplished by Jack Bogle alone.

 

 

Trump is PT Barnum for the modern age. Jeopardy, Trivial Pursuit or Who Wants To Be A Millionaire type intelligence? Not so much. Reading and understanding how fear and emotion drive people into doing things that work against their best interest/s? Sure. Manipulation is a form of intelligence. Hitler was the master of it. Heck, any of the dictators that Trump so frequently expresses admiration for like Putin, Duterte, Erdogan and Kim Jong Eun. High EQ, lower IQ. He even occasionally seems compassionate or empathetic with words, but never follows up with actions. That's how he won OH, PA, WI and MI. He made those workers believe he cared more about them and "American greatness/exceptionalism" than Obama and especially Hillary did.

Edited May 12, 2017 by caulfield12