Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 16, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) Israeli Official: Trump Sharing Intelligence With Russia Is "Worst Fears Confirmed" The Russians may use this information not totally in the US or Israel's favor? Just like health care being difficult, and BS'ing your way around a Muslin ban, and China now not being currency malipulators, and not building a wall when you say go, and not having who knew? Russia is our friend. They tell Trump how great he is. He hands over the keys to the store. For the love of God GOP, wake the f*** up and get rid of this guy ASAP. Edited May 16, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 from the nyt article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 https://twitter.com/nytmike/status/864591993967607808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) In a sane world, this leads to Trump being led out of the White House in handcuffs. WASHINGTON -- President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump's former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting. "I hope you can let this go," the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo. The existence of Mr. Trump's request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump's associates and Russia. It wouldn't be Trump without threats to the media: Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information, according to one of Mr. Comey's associates. Edited May 16, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Gotta wonder how many more time bombs Comey left out there. Firing him was possibly the dumbest move Trump's made yet. Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations. Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter. Edited May 16, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Wow that is really huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Can this be what finally takes Trump down or is that wishful thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Ali VitaliVerified account @alivitali Senior WH official tells NBC POTUS "has never asked Mr. Comey...to end any investigation, incl any investigation involving Gen Flynn." Matt Viser ✔ @mviser Two things about WH response: 1) It’s not on the record. 2) This is a time when credibility, which WH is in short supply of, is important. 4:39 PM - 16 May 2017 Too bad Trump himself has managed to completely destroy the credibility in a very public manner of anyone trying to speak for him twice. In a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Katy Tur ✔ @KatyTurNBC NBC news confirms letter and line: line, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go.” (Source close to Comey https://twitter.com/katyturnbc/status/864592493114994688 … 4:40 PM - 16 May 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (from yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 16, 2017 -> 05:43 PM) Can this be what finally takes Trump down or is that wishful thinking? The usual suspects will continue to deny, need concrete proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ May 16, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) The usual suspects will continue to deny, need concrete proof. From an earlier post: "An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Obstruction of justice is wrong. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 16, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) Obstruction of justice is wrong. Who knew? it's probably all fake news anyway. That's probably why the Senate Intelligence Chairman is outsourcing oversight to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Burr saying it's up to NYT to get the memo. That's a good indicator that the Republicans are not moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Let's just hope that's the tip of the iceberg with Comey and he saves something for his public Senate hearing. Otoh, it would be nice to head off Trump's Mideast trip before he somehow sets off a war. No way he can stick to prepared speeches that whole time. It's not in his instincts to be boring..he has to do something to be the center of attention and make headlines. He probably believes he can still pull a Jimmy Carter peace envoy appearance out of the hat, but even better and bigger. Then again, with Comey's strong sense of ethics and honesty, one wonders why he is waiting to sink Trump if he has the ability to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 16, 2017 -> 05:06 PM) it's probably all fake news anyway. That's probably why the Senate Intelligence Chairman is outsourcing oversight to the media. For some reason, if it was Hillary, I believe Burr would not say the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 As much as Mike Pence's political views are even more extreme than Trump's, he is such a preferable president because at least he wouldn't put his foot in his mouth every other hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 16, 2017 -> 05:17 PM) As much as Mike Pence's political views are even more extreme than Trump's, he is such a preferable president because at least he wouldn't put his foot in his mouth every other hour. I continue to believe the same, but the longer the trump pres goes the obvious accomodating makes it hard to move cleanly on. But the argument that Pence takes institutions more seriously should be true, yet, he's allowing this. He is on record telling lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/16/opinions/onl...rger/index.html All the President's friends worried---Gloria Borger But in another way, no, the President is not anywhere near a tipping point. In fact, he may be incapable of one. Because change does not come easily to Donald Trump. There is absolutely no sense among his friends, according to multiple sources, that he blames himself for any of his problems. It's his legal team or his communications team or his senior staff. The President, says one source, "seems to have lost confidence in everybody." Except himself. So he complains constantly, says one source, but he can never say that, yes, maybe he ought to take the presidential daily brief, um, daily. Or that he ought to require more substantive briefings before meeting with foreign officials. Or that freelancing is not a great idea in classified settings. "There's not enough substance to much of what he gets," says one ally who has gotten feedback from a foreign official who recently met with Trump. And that allows the President, this source says, to just go "off script and have his instincts take over and [he] goes with it." Consider: the Russians. "Is he absorbing what comes through the door?," this friend asks, "or what he sees on social media and TV?" In fact, this ally has told Trump "if you want to become a great President, turn off the TV." Again, these are friends -- people who want to see the President succeed. They all understand the need for staff changes -- and agree with Trump's senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner who believes, according to a source with knowledge, that the communications shop needs to be fixed. But they also say that replacing the entire staff would probably not do much to fix the most important thing: Trump himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Wapo with additional reporting, says Comey memo is two pages long and very detailed. https://t.co/pADB2hHncV Not surprised that Republicans are continuing to run cover for this, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 16, 2017 -> 05:22 PM) Wapo with additional reporting, says Comey memo is two pages long and very detailed. https://t.co/pADB2hHncV Not surprised that Republicans are continuing to run cover for this, sadly. The silence is deafening, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Trump is fundraising off of this https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/864605283464740865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Comey's description of the event make clear his understanding of the conversation was that the president was seeking to impede the investigation, according to people who have read the account or had it read to them, these people said. Comey felt the conversation was improper and decided to keep the details of the conversations away from the case agents working on the Russia probe. That paragraph alone is pretty damning from WaPo. A Constitutional crisis has officially arrived. The Founding Fathers consistently put country over Party, so the inherent weakness in the Constitution is imaging a time when the majority part in control would not do so. Free Advice to Trump aides: Quit While You Can https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/opinion/...col-left-region Edited May 16, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Wapo report also indicates that the Comey memo was shared with doj, which means sessions was aware of this when he signed off on firing Comey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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