President Donald Trump: The Thread

[Quin]

Ironic your response when compared to your question about something that didn't happen in thr past.

 

As Obama didn't have his children, their significant others or any of his inmediste family members in high ranking positions l, it'd hard to speculate what the response would have been.

 

That being said, I can say that the response to Obama being elected president included denying he was an American, I believe I can safely speculate that media outlets would have written storied about something that is newsworthy.

 

Interesting response though, I guess even when something isn't political people are going to blame.Obama than question their dear leader Trump.

 

Seriously f*** that Obama guy, did you know he used fancy mustard one time, not like common man ketchup eating Trump.

 

I think you mean, Donald Trump, son of the blue collar billionaire who isn't so elitist as Obama to live in an upscale house in Chicago.

[caulfield12]

Steak and ketchup...and he wears an American flag lapel pin 24 hours per day to prove he's patriotic, proud to be an American and listen to that god awful Lee Greenwood song over and over again (cue video of Egyptian/American hostage being released).

 

Never eats arugula. That would be elitist.

Edited May 25, 2017 by caulfield12

[StrangeSox]

https://twitter.com/NickBaumann/status/8677...0842753/photo/1

[StrangeSox]

trump shoves another NATO leader out of the way so he could be in front

 

https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/867758571882258432

[GoSox05]

trump shoves another NATO leader out of the way so he could be in front

 

https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/867758571882258432

 

Lmao. What a giant toddler this idiot is.

 

He wants to be Mussolini, but he is just too dumb and incompetent.

Edited May 25, 2017 by GoSox05

[Big Hurtin]

Trump didn't let Spicer meet the Pope, such a scummy move. Spicer is a Catholic, but more important to let Jared and Ivanka meet him.

 

Really shows the type of human Trump is.

Need proof of this conjecture.

 

I wonder if a scenario ever existed where there would be several news outlets writing the same story about President Obama choosing to travel with Malia Obama over Josh Earnest.

Maybe if he was traveling down the yellow brick road with the strawman.

 

[StrangeSox]

Lmao. What a giant toddler this idiot is.

 

He wants to be Mussolini, but he is just too dumb and incompetent.

 

now in gif form

 

[StrangeSox]

BREAKING: 4th Circuit largely affirms nationwide injunction blocking Trump travel ban

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/867800686234394626

[Kyyle23]

Yet again, commander in chief demands everyone else in NATO "pay their fair share"

 

Yet again, Trump displaying absolutely zero knowledge of what NATO is

[RockRaines]

You are all being deliberately obtuse. There was never any coverage of who Obama traveled with. There was never any coverage of whether or not his press team was with him. You'd think with how often Trump puts his foot in his mouth you guyswouldnt have to make stuff up too.

 

When I questioned Michelle Obama's place in the admin and why she should be deciding whether our kids eat tofu I was racist. Now everyone has an issue with nepotism.

Yawn, the first lady has always had pretty large responsibility unless they are complete idiots.

 

There also an easily accessible travel schedule of every trip Obama took and with whom. Especially later during his presidency when social media merged with actual media. The current president took time to criticize just about every trip Obama ever took Link

 

 

There was a running tally of how much each trip Obama took during his term and the republicans paid such attention to it that it was used during the election cycle. Michelle was accused of using tax payer money for personal vacations. Obama was even heavily criticized for taking his dog on Air Force One. There was even a fake news story about them buying a first class ticket for their Dog to go to hawaii. Check just about every speed at CPAC. There was widespread coverage of where he went and with whom and who was paying for it.

 

But yeah, no coverage. Trump is the most unfairly criticized politician in history

Edited May 25, 2017 by RockRaines

[StrangeSox]

You are all being deliberately obtuse. There was never any coverage of who Obama traveled with. There was never any coverage of whether or not his press team was with him. You'd think with how often Trump puts his foot in his mouth you guyswouldnt have to make stuff up too.

 

When I questioned Michelle Obama's place in the admin and why she should be deciding whether our kids eat tofu I was racist. Now everyone has an issue with nepotism.

 

First Ladies typically have some sort of role in the admin, and that's not what happened when you asked "why does anyone care about Michelle Obama."

 

There was all sorts of hysteria about Obama's travels from the rightwing media, including ludicrous claims that a trip to India was costing $200B a day repeated by members of Congress (it was a complete fabrication). Michelle Obama was hounded for a long time by conservatives for anything and everything but especially her travel (not a peep from them on the millions its costing for Melania to live in a golden tower in NYC).

 

Nobody's making anything up here. Trump's administration is shot through with nepotism just as his businesses were, and he invented a position for his daughter and has dumped a ton of responsibilities on his son-in-law. It's not normal for the President's children to be so involved.

[Soxbadger]

You are all being deliberately obtuse. There was never any coverage of who Obama traveled with. There was never any coverage of whether or not his press team was with him. You'd think with how often Trump puts his foot in his mouth you guyswouldnt have to make stuff up too.

 

When I questioned Michelle Obama's place in the admin and why she should be deciding whether our kids eat tofu I was racist. Now everyone has an issue with nepotism.

 

Except they did:

 

Go to picture 4 at link below (or I may have fixed the link to make it show right when you click)

 

http://www.gettyimages.com/event/the-pope-...ture-id88968511

 

 

http://content.time.com/time/photogallery/...1909972,00.html

 

 

 

Now maybe this one time you will admit you are wrong, and admit that the reason why there werent stories written about it is because Obama isnt a complete tool like Trump. What Trump did is what millions of people with bad bosses deal with every day. They do petty s*** to their employees because they can.

 

Maybe you are cool with that, maybe that is the type of person you are. But irregardless of what I think about Spicer, I think it was a scummy move by Trump. Spicer was a good soldier, he has taken bullet after bullet for Trump, most of it over things Spicer had no control over, and yet when the time came for Spicer to have his "moment" Trump snubbed him.

 

 

I wont hold my breath for the retraction. And next time maybe do a little research, because it took me 2 seconds to pull the pictures. Last I checked commenting on "facts" isnt making stuff up. Spicer didnt get to meet the Pope, this isnt some lie, its a fact.

 

As for the Michelle Obama comment, I have no idea about your purported allegations of being called a racist, first lady's have general had some sort of role. Whether its Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, Michelle Obama or Melania. But last I checked, I didnt say anything about "Melania" I said Ivanka and Jared.

 

I know I know, its so hard because everyone is mean and calls people names.

Edited May 25, 2017 by Soxbadger

[Soxbadger]

Aw damn didnt realize other people were going to beat me to the punch, now its just going to reinforce the martyr narrative.

[RockRaines]

First Ladies typically have some sort of role in the admin, and that's not what happened when you asked "why does anyone care about Michelle Obama."

 

There was all sorts of hysteria about Obama's travels from the rightwing media, including ludicrous claims that a trip to India was costing $200B a day repeated by members of Congress (it was a complete fabrication). Michelle Obama was hounded for a long time by conservatives for anything and everything but especially her travel (not a peep from them on the millions its costing for Melania to live in a golden tower in NYC).

 

Nobody's making anything up here. Trump's administration is shot through with nepotism just as his businesses were, and he invented a position for his daughter and has dumped a ton of responsibilities on his son-in-law. It's not normal for the President's children to be so involved.

To be fair, his children have to be a lot older than typical. Of course thats because unlike any other president, he's on his 3rd marriage.

[StrangeSox]

To be fair, his children have to be a lot older than typical. Of course thats because unlike any other president, he's on his 3rd marriage.

 

I thought about noting that since Clinton's, W's and Obama's children were all young, but Bush Sr.'s and Reagan's children were at least as old as Trump's and Carter's were pretty close in age.

[StrangeSox]

"why are people discussing things on this, a discussion forum?!"

 

--There are lots of unnamed sources because this administration is run by extremely incompetent people and leadership has encouraged factionalism and backstabbing. Then, on top of that, you have tons of career public servants who are horrified at said incompetents and can't believe how dumb and reckless they are. There are lots of sources and bombshells because this administration is already setting records for inappropriate and possibly straight up illegal behaviour

--Trump is still the guy who bragged about serial sexual assault on tape, who had over a dozen accusers come forward, and who was once accused of rape by his ex-wife. That hasn't changed, but there hasn't been any new news on that front. Do you think we should just be posting about those same things?

--Trump had non-family members meet the Pope. He didn't have his deeply Catholic press secretary, who had previously expressed his greatest desire in life to be meeting the Pope, come with. That seems like a newsworthy if still minor thing.

 

Should the news only report on things that will make textbooks 40 years from now? What does it harm you if they do or if some of us here talk about it a little bit?

Edited May 25, 2017 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

translation from Der Speigel, but Trump looks like he wants to kick off a trade war with Germany.

 

US President Donald Trump has complained bitterly about the German trade surplus on his meeting with the EU top in Brussels. "The Germans are bad, very bad," said Trump. This was learned by the SPIEGEL from participants in the meeting.

 

Trump said, "Look at the millions of cars they sell in the US, and we'll stop that."

[Soxbadger]

Simply stating differences of input between presidencies doesn't make one worse or better. My point was that there's so much outrage over s*** that was never covered before Trump's presidency. He's a dope and if you give him enough rope he'll hang himself but why is the media creating faux-controversy? Why is there more unnamed sources then ever? Why can't anyone put their name next to the daily Trump pseudo-controversy? How come you guys stopped calling him a rapist? He used to be a rapist? Now he's not? Now you're okay with rape? Where's the disconnect? The media moved onto another story and today's is that Trump's press secretary should make the travel cut over his own family. Really cutting edge stuff. I'm sure the kids will be learning about this in history class in 40 years.

 

Because thats like your opinion man. Some of your statements are seriously mind blowing.

 

Outrage over s*** that was never covered?

 

Are you serious? Obama had to deal with "hes not an American", "hes a Muslim". I mean really, take your blinders off. Not to mention, you dont even seem to grasp the fact that Trump's Presidency is in the digital age and that there is more access to pictures, gifs, media, twitter, facebook, etc than ever before. And some of this, Trump brings on himself because he uses twitter like a 14 year old girl updating her friends on how her parents are being so unfair.

 

The rest of the post, I dont even know how to respond to. Faux- Controversy? Again thats your opinion. I personally believe what he did to Spicer is worse than a lot of his other dumb s***. At least when he called Hillary names or other Republicans, those were his "enemies." But Trump is supposedly a "loyal" guy, and what he did to Spicer (imo) shows what type of a person he is.

 

Rapist? I dont know, never called Trump a rapist, and not sure why its relevant. Not sure how you get to the leap of logic that somehow not repeating rapist every other word means that youre okay with rape.

 

As for what the kids will be learning about in 40 years, I dont know, and Im not sure that is some sort of measuring stick that I actually care about.

 

But this is all a waste of time, no matter how many times you are wrong, you will just change the entire dialogue into something that is at best tangential but most of the time completely irrelevant. Why not stick to the topic? Why are you so obsessed with what happened in the past or fairness or name calling (which is weird because now your saying we should call people names ie rapist), why can it never be an actual response to the issue?

 

We get it, you think that Trump is being treated unfairly because the media is so bad and unfair. It doesnt take a lot of original thought, maybe one day youll find it more interesting to actually discuss the facts.

[StrangeSox]

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[NorthSideSox72]

Simply stating differences of input between presidencies doesn't make one worse or better. My point was that there's so much outrage over s*** that was never covered before Trump's presidency. He's a dope and if you give him enough rope he'll hang himself but why is the media creating faux-controversy? Why is there more unnamed sources then ever? Why can't anyone put their name next to the daily Trump pseudo-controversy? How come you guys stopped calling him a rapist? He used to be a rapist? Now he's not? Now you're okay with rape? Where's the disconnect? The media moved onto another story and today's is that Trump's press secretary should make the travel cut over his own family. Really cutting edge stuff. I'm sure the kids will be learning about this in history class in 40 years.

I mean, there are cetainly some things people are getting outraged about that are silly. There was plenty of that with Obama too.

 

What makes it extra weird when people get all upset about little stuff is, Trump is doing so many large stupid things, why hyperventilate about the little things?

 

I really don't think this Spicey stuff is worth anyone's energy other than his. If he's upset about that, I don't blame him, but I also don't really care and can think of plenty of reasons why maybe it made sense. It's a non-issue, on that I agree.

 

[RockRaines]

Simply stating differences of input between presidencies doesn't make one worse or better. My point was that there's so much outrage over s*** that was never covered before Trump's presidency. He's a dope and if you give him enough rope he'll hang himself but why is the media creating faux-controversy? Why is there more unnamed sources then ever? Why can't anyone put their name next to the daily Trump pseudo-controversy? How come you guys stopped calling him a rapist? He used to be a rapist? Now he's not? Now you're okay with rape? Where's the disconnect? The media moved onto another story and today's is that Trump's press secretary should make the travel cut over his own family. Really cutting edge stuff. I'm sure the kids will be learning about this in history class in 40 years.

I dont see how any of that is true.

[Soxbadger]

I mean, there are cetainly some things people are getting outraged about that are silly. There was plenty of that with Obama too.

 

What makes it extra weird when people get all upset about little stuff is, Trump is doing so many large stupid things, why hyperventilate about the little things?

 

I really don't think this Spicey stuff is worth anyone's energy other than his. If he's upset about that, I don't blame him, but I also don't really care and can think of plenty of reasons why maybe it made sense. It's a non-issue, on that I agree.

 

My personal opinion, the President of the United States is in some ways a representation of all of the US. While we may disagree with Obama, Bush, Reagan, etc at the end of the day I feel that they generally upheld the standards of what represents America. To me (personally) loyalty is important, it shows what type of person you are. When a country/person/whatever is loyal to you, you repay them in kind.

 

It may not be the most pressing new story in the history of the world, it may not be the most important issue today, but sometimes its just flat out boring to say the same damn things about Healthcare, Environment etc over and over again. Over the last year I have simply become bored of those issues.

 

The Spicer incident, while not earth shattering, shows Trump (imo) for who he is. Nothing more than a bad boss, something that almost every American can relate to.

 

Which brings us to the real issue:

 

Is this who we want to represent America?

 

I apologize if its not a "big" enough issue, but most of life is the small stuff. Reasonable people can have reasonable differences on taxes, healthcare, even the environment, but how you hold yourself, especially as the highest representative of my country, means something to me.

 

Not saying that everyone has to agree.

Edited May 25, 2017 by Soxbadger

[Dick Allen]

I mean I don't hold you to a standard in this respect. You sit here all day and post every negative article you find on Trump or the right and then post/defend every socialist/left wing article/viewpoint. Everybody knows your opinion before you put it forth. You and caulfield can really go down some rabbit holes and I am sure in ten years you can look back at the way you have used several hours a day for the past couple decades to spew your ideology and agenda in the same niche section of this niche forum. Good for you - time well spent I am sure.

 

What I take issue with is the media playing its role in contributing to the ignorance of our country. Whether Sean Spicer travels with the president shouldn't make the top 1000 stories in the world right now. It's political TMZ gossip.

Yeah but did you hear Joe Biden's son dated his late brother's wife? Creepy. Did you see where they woman who got coldcocked (no pun intended) did porn? Unsettling. Why is it OK for you?

[RockRaines]

But that's moving the goal posts, and not really what the story was about. CNN reported Spicer, the 2nd most visible person in the White House, was reportedly very upset with the "snub" and there were also reports the move was done because some don't expect Spicer to be back in front of the podium when the White House contingent return home to Washington.

 

Is it the biggest story in the world? No, and I don't think it was covered that way, to be honest. But it shows more possible dissension in a turbulent White House.

It wasnt really much of a story at all. It was one or two posts in this thread and maybe a few tweets laughing about it. Other than that, its not really a story.

[caulfield12]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/secret-budget-as...--politics.html

 

But we need an additional LUIS Robert contract in terms of spending on Trump Tower security, lol?

 

How many Meals on Wheels would that provide to elderly rural residents in America?

 

 

You might want to refresh your memory about everything the media said about Obama's golfing, Hawaiian vacations and trip to Spain. Heck, at least he had the respect for the office to not pretend he was too good for rustic Camp David.

 

As far as anything I post, I'm pissed. I hardly went to this section for a decade...but after reading all the ill-informed comments of Trump voters, the alt right and conspiracy theories about the Clinton's (I don't even admire them anymore but your posts are forcing a response from many), the whole Birther thing, enough is enough. There's a war going on and I'm not going to sit on the sidelines. If just one person changes their mind, that's enough for me. I mean, this is a baseball message board. If I spent all the time investing in the stock market,working overtime, traveling or reading all the classic works of literature instead of following the Sox, maybe my life would be 25-50% better by some random objective criteria, but I doubt it. One's opportunity cost "wasted" on sports is another's treasure. The same goes for anyone getting involved in politics again after sitting on the sidelines for a long time. Plus, as an added bonus, Dick Allen and I don't even fight anymore...and perhaps you vs. Reddy is the #1 current grudge match of the month, lol. So just maybe you can do some self-reflection and you will want to reallocate that time as well!

Edited May 25, 2017 by caulfield12