StrangeSox Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 05:21 PM) It is bizarre to see the left wanting conflict with Russia to be a thing. I don't want conflict with Russia, but I don't see how what I want determines whether they actively interfered in the election last year and will continue to try to do so in the future. I guess I'm not really sure what you mean by your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 05:21 PM) It is bizarre to see the left wanting conflict with Russia to be a thing. You are aware that we are and have been in conflict with Russia for decades right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Don't get me wrong a shooting war with Russia would be extremely bad, but if they are undermining our democracy it seems like we should take that seriously and at least implement defensive measures. The president is either ignoring it or calling it a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 New Muslim ban guidelines are going out Seems like it's healing right back to court for not exactly following what scotus said https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/880...src=twsrc%5Etfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) New Muslim ban guidelines are going out Seems like it's healing right back to court for not exactly following what scotus said https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/880...src=twsrc%5Etfw I wish I could be successful by being this incompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 05:26 PM) I don't want conflict with Russia, but I don't see how what I want determines whether they actively interfered in the election last year and will continue to try to do so in the future. I guess I'm not really sure what you mean by your post What he's probably saying is all countries have been meddling in elections forever. Pretending this is some sort of news is the problem. It was only made public to take the heat off Clinton and now continues in an effort to undermine Trump. Obama should have never made any of this public, that's the problem. It completely embarrasses Western democracy giving legitimacy to it. Acknowledging it publicly is the best thing that could have ever happened to Russia. They messed with the West and for some stuuuuupid reason, we gave them credit. You gotta keep that s*** under wraps, like we have for decades. That's Rule #1. People actually think this is new and that it's serious, that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 01:47 AM) My friend's cousin is coming over from Palestine in August. I wonder if he's lying about being Muslim so he can get in or you're just being deliberately obtuse in calling it that. Are all the changes in European countries' immigration policies Muslim bans as well? Seems like a reasonable take. Trump himself called it a Muslim ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Capital-P Presidential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 27, 2017 -> 08:52 AM) Trump lawyer's firm steered millions in donations to family members, files show He's under investigation for this scam charity by two AG's now (NY and NC), and there are also questions surrounding a $296m deal he did with Kushner https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/ju...hner?CMP=twt_gu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 06:05 AM) Capital-P Presidential What a vile and despicable man. I take it Melania's anti-cyberbullying campaign hasn't officially started yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 It's also funny that someone with the temperament and vocabulary of a 3rd grader is calling someone low I.Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 08:37 AM) It's also funny that someone with the temperament and vocabulary of a 3rd grader is calling someone low I.Q. And he keeps mentioning ratings. I wonder how come he ignores his own. Edited June 29, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) In 2014, Obama was accused of demeaning the Presidency for going on Between Two Ferns to tout healthcare. Edited June 29, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jun 28, 2017 -> 09:38 PM) What he's probably saying is all countries have been meddling in elections forever. Pretending this is some sort of news is the problem. It was only made public to take the heat off Clinton and now continues in an effort to undermine Trump. Obama should have never made any of this public, that's the problem. It completely embarrasses Western democracy giving legitimacy to it. Acknowledging it publicly is the best thing that could have ever happened to Russia. They messed with the West and for some stuuuuupid reason, we gave them credit. You gotta keep that s*** under wraps, like we have for decades. That's Rule #1. People actually think this is new and that it's serious, that's the problem. They'd rather rot the relationship to score some political points unlike when they were the ones leading the way in places like Cuba, Iran, and North Korea, and pretended like the bad things didn't matter there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Taking preventative measures to stop future interference in our elections seems like a pretty important thing to do if you want to ensure the integrity of our electoral process. Completely ignoring foreign interference in our elections seems negligent at best, and I'm not sure how the situation with Russia is comparable to engagement with Cuba, Iran or North Korea. The issue at hand isn't Russia domestic policy but what they are doing to the United States. Whether the US has clean hands isn't at issue, either. We certainly don't, and have interfered in foreign elections and even gone as far as to overthrow foreign governments plenty of times. That's awful, and it should stop, but I still want electoral integrity to be ensured here. There are reports that they tried to hack in at the voter database level and were successful in at least one case--that's a huge deal. Voting machines themselves are notoriously prone to infiltration, and some voting software places were also targeted. I don't believe it got to the level of actual vote tampering, but it very easily could and is more likely to happen if the President is ignoring the issue entirely because it upsets him. I mean, if you want to try to play the hypocrisy card, it'd be pretty easy to point out that the same people insisting that foreign interference in our electoral process is nbd are also the ones constantly shouting for Voter ID and other forms of domestic disenfrachisement to address problems that don't even actually exist. Which I guess is sort of relevant because while Turmp is completely ignoring the Russia issue that the entire intelligence community insists is very real, he's still going forward with his "Voter Integrity Committee" that's focused on finding those 3M illegal votes. Edited June 29, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Qatar hosts tens of thousands of American troops and is a CENTCOM base. But because Saudi Arabia threw Trump a party, we're apparently going to throw them under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 09:53 AM) They'd rather rot the relationship to score some political points unlike when they were the ones leading the way in places like Cuba, Iran, and North Korea, and pretended like the bad things didn't matter there. No one pretended bad things don't happen in those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 07:05 AM) Capital-P Presidential Stay classy...like the contract he forced Melania to sign, if you choose to have a baby, you have to make a promise to get back to your pre-birth shape or else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 And can someone tell Jared how idiotic he looks calling out Tillerson for being unprofessional (yelling out of frustration at a female staffer in a meeting about the slow pace of his State Dept. appointments and Trump administrative geeks trying to block them)...when he's the most rotten apple of the bunch. At least Bannon has intellectual curiosity, he just focuses it in the wrong direction 75% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Mika went back at Trump HARD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Gives new meaning to Mozart in the Jungle's "Play with the blood!" This his second pretty disgusting blood reference, after Megan Kelly. Pee coming again? Any other bodily functions? Germaphobe!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 pee tape is real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 How everyone in this country isn't completely embarrassed by this idiot is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 If Joe Scarborough said something like this about Melania he'd be fired and would struggle to make a media comeback. And that would be the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 29, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) If Joe Scarborough said something like this about Melania he'd be fired and would struggle to make a media comeback. And that would be the right thing to do. Or that she was really a highly compensated escort when she started her modeling career the first few years in NYC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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