StrangeSox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) New lawsuit alleges WH helped orchestrate Seth Rich conspiracy lunacy http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/la...fake-news-story On April 20, a month before the story ran, Butowsky and Wheeler — the investor and the investigator — met at the White House with then Press Secretary Sean Spicer to brief him on what they were uncovering. The first page of the lawsuit quotes a voicemail and text from Butowsky boasting that President Trump himself had reviewed drafts of the Fox News story just before it went to air and was published. Spicer now tells NPR that he took the meeting as a favor to Butowsky, a reliable Republican voice. Spicer says he was unaware of any contact involving the president. Butowsky now tells NPR he was kidding about Trump's involvement. "Rod Wheeler unfortunately was used as a pawn by Ed Butowsky, Fox News and the Trump administration to try and steer away the attention that was being given about the Russian hacking of the DNC e-mails," said Douglas Wigdor, Wheeler's lawyer. Edited August 1, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 07:25 PM) Trump personally dictated Don Jrs misleading Russia collusion statements. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/8...src=twsrc%5Etfw The strategy, the advisers agreed, should be for Donald Trump Jr. to release a statement to get ahead of the story. They wanted to be truthful, so their account couldn’t be repudiated later if the full details emerged. But within hours, at the president’s direction, the plan changed. Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said that he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared an article, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.” Peter Zeidenberg, the deputy special prosecutor who investigated the George W. Bush administration’s leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity, said Mueller will have to dig into the crafting of Trump Jr.’s statement aboard Air Force One. Prosecutors typically assume that any misleading statement is an effort to throw investigators off the track, Zeidenberg said. “The thing that really strikes me about this is the stupidity of involving the president,” Zeidenberg said. “They are still treating this like a family-run business and they have a PR problem. . . . What they don’t seem to understand is this is a criminal investigation involving all of them.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 31, 2017 -> 11:45 PM) Congress sucks. So sick of f***ing Congress. Should be 1 term and done, two max. And in order to run for Congress you should have to be retired & have had a family and they all died. I know that's super morbid but then the lobbyists and world corps wouldn't be able to threaten their families to sway policy. But at the same time, the candidate having had a family, would know how hard it is to have a family and fight for all the families of America, with humility. No career to worry about. No bribes necessary, no threatening of loved ones because there aren't any alive. Sick, yes. Morbid, sure. Pure though? Just maybe 1. Term limits have done the exact opposite of what people suggest they're supposed to do when they're tried. California remains the example case - you get rid of anyone who has experience doing things like "writing a budget" or "making a deal" and you wind up unable to have things like budgets written. 2. You want only retirees in Congress? I'm sure they'll do a great job of writing relevant laws for the internet, or to deal with education, or all those other high tech industries. Tons of expertise there. They might even have to turn to outside experts to figure things out. Might even call those experts lobbyists. Stop working around the back door. The problem is money. As long as we have a privately financed campaign system, then we will continue to have the best representatives money can buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 09:38 AM) 1. Term limits have done the exact opposite of what people suggest they're supposed to do when they're tried. California remains the example case - you get rid of anyone who has experience doing things like "writing a budget" or "making a deal" and you wind up unable to have things like budgets written. It also turns power over to the unelected people who do stay around, namely the career senior staffers and lobbyists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Trump has been saying he has pen in hand. Why hasn't he signed the Russian sanctions bill yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 10:55 AM) Trump has been saying he has pen in hand. Why hasn't he signed the Russian sanctions bill yet? He says he hasn't received the bill yet! (Govt website shows it was sent to him on 7/28) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) He says he hasn't received the bill yet! (Govt website shows it was sent to him on 7/28) #peepeetapeproblems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 EPA forced to uphold Obama-era methane pollution law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 02:40 PM) EPA forced to uphold Obama-era methane pollution law Signs of the system working despite everything stacked against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 1, 2017 -> 02:44 PM) Signs of the system working despite everything stacked against it. You know Pruitt is pissed. Oh well back to fracking the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 So some crazy s*** happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Aug 4, 2017 -> 11:54 AM) So some crazy s*** happened The Republicans are as good at governing as they are at keeping Soxtalk running #BALTASLAM #MICDROP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 In the three days Soxtalk was down, this happened Mueller impaneled a grand jury Mueller subpoenaed Jr and Manafort Flynn changed his disclosure form to include his work with Cambridge Analytics Congress forced Trump to sign the Russian sanctions Trump whined mightily about those sanctions Russia basically called Trump weak and said he handed power to congress Congress voted unanimously that there would be no recess appointments Transcripts of Trumps January calls with Mexico and Australia leaked, and they made Trump look super bad I know I missed some things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Trump 17 day golf vacation Kushner said they're not organized enough as an administration to collude Trump wants to do away with mortgage interest deduction, hoping to sink poll numbers into 20's Stock market and jobs report/unemployment positive news swamped by everything else. Scaramucci might want to undo that divorce he put in motion. Martin Wu Tang Fraud Boy got nailed finally. McMaster, Kelly and Mattis might need to lead a coup d' etat. Trump called WH a dump. Edited August 5, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 4, 2017 -> 07:08 PM) In the three days Soxtalk was down, this happened Mueller impaneled a grand jury Mueller subpoenaed Jr and Manafort Flynn changed his disclosure form to include his work with Cambridge Analytics Congress forced Trump to sign the Russian sanctions Trump whined mightily about those sanctions Russia basically called Trump weak and said he handed power to congress Congress voted unanimously that there would be no recess appointments Transcripts of Trumps January calls with Mexico and Australia leaked, and they made Trump look super bad I know I missed some things But then the Boy Scouts called him to express their love and admiration for him, so it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 4, 2017 -> 07:19 PM) Trump called WH a dump. I'm surprised by the relative lack of publicity this comment got. Can you imagine the Republican outrage had Obama said this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 12:08 AM) I'm surprised by the relative lack of publicity this comment got. Can you imagine the Republican outrage had Obama said this? The biggest Obama scandals to Republicans were that he ordered dijon mustard and wore a tan suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Quin @ Aug 4, 2017 -> 11:37 PM) The biggest Obama scandals to Republicans were that he ordered dijon mustard and wore a tan suit. Arugula Labradoodles Didn't wear an American flag pin until forced to Apologized for American Exceptionalism Not calling them radical Islamic Jihadists Wasn't John Kerry the one called out for the mustard or having the temerity to speak French of all languages? (CNN)President Donald Trump is set to depart the White House later today for a 17-day working vacation at his golf club in New Jersey. Trump's vacation, as The Washington Post's Philip Bump notes, is twice as long as the vacation President Barack Obama took to Martha's Vineyard in his first year in office -- and will mean Trump has spent 53 "leisure" days through August 2017 as compared to 15 for Obama through August 2009. First 189 days as president: Trump, 41 days away Obama, 21 days away Bush, 67 days away (9/11 year) http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/04/politics/don...bama/index.html Edited August 5, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Called New Hampshire a drug infested den. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 5, 2017 -> 10:17 AM) Called New Hampshire a drug infested den. Parole Board Officer: Uh, we object to the term "urine-soaked hellhole", when you could have said "pee-pee soaked heckhole." Sideshow Bob: Cheerfully withdrawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 OK. Trump should be fired (oh wait we can't just fire him). Why? Because he has been caught in a huge lie. Trump before he became a presidential candidate tweeted that nobody should ever take vacation. He said if you enjoy your work and are committed to it, what's the problem? Just work. He lied. He takes many vacations. Also he specifically blasted Barack for taking time off. He said he would never take time off. Now, look. When you get caught in a red-faced flat out lie, there should be repercussions. Some media member needs to cite his tweets of the past and call him on it. Now that media member will get lambasted and perhaps kicked out of the White House but it must be done. We can't have our president flat out trolling the country which he has done. I realize politicians all lie, but rarely is it this blatant. Fire Mr. Trump. he is a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) This is hilarious. Bill Maher had an Obama impersonator say actual Trump quotes.. http://deadline.com/2017/08/hbo-real-time-...ump-1202143075/ Edited August 7, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I do enjoy that greg thinks the vacation lie was the breaking point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) The crazy thing is Bush took about the same amount of vacation time as Obama and Trump combined at the beginning of 2001... http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/07/politics/mik...2020/index.html Pence goes ballistic over NY Times article that alleges he's preparing for a presidential run in 2020 Edited August 7, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Orange tweeter found his phone from where it was hidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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