greg775 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) I can see why Trump blamed some people besides the white supremists. He ripped white supremists and Nazis. He said he despises their actions. What more do you want? I get it. Everybody despises Trump. But what has he done so bad of late in regard to this situation? You know, the hooligans ripping down statues aren't the best behaved people as well. Trump is awful. We all know that but he's not racist, folks. He's just not no matter how much you want him to prove to be one. Edited August 16, 2017 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Uh-oh (for Greg). https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politic...m=.c70b7c6c2ac3 Trump sides with the alt-right in Charlottesville That torchlight rally on Friday night, when protesters gave the Nazi salute, chanted “blood and soil” — a Nazi slogan — and “Jews will not replace us”? “I looked the night before,” Trump said. “If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. … But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know — I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit.” Both sides, he said, had some “very fine people” participating Saturday. After Trump’s initial statement on Saturday, white nationalist groups celebrated his positioning them on the same moral level as their opponents. For racists, that alone is a victory. After Tuesday’s news conference, he got another strong review in that vein from (none other than) David Duke. Edited August 16, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Greg, ever hear of Central Park Five? Him refusing to rent to black people? He's said enough in the last year alone to prove he is. Maybe subconsciously but he's definitely a bigot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 07:31 PM) Greg, ever hear of Central Park Five? Him refusing to rent to black people? He's said enough in the last year alone to prove he is. Maybe subconsciously but he's definitely a bigot. And it's probably not (100%) his fault...that belief system was even more thoroughly embraced by his father (Fred), and it certainly not uncommon with those who bought/sold/invested in real estate in NY from the 1950's through 1980's. Of course, none of that justifies or rationalizes away his espousing those same values as President of the United States, as opposed to the CEO/Chairman of a privately-held company. Edited August 16, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 08:08 PM) Ok, this had better end his f***ing presidency. I hope a Republican never gets elected again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 08:15 PM) We all know that but he's not racist, folks. No, we dont. He was brought up in an extremely racist family and has shown signs of himself being racist. How would that lead to "us knowing" hes not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 06:15 PM) I can see why Trump blamed some people besides the white supremists. He ripped white supremists and Nazis. He said he despises their actions. What more do you want? I get it. Everybody despises Trump. But what has he done so bad of late in regard to this situation? You know, the hooligans ripping down statues aren't the best behaved people as well. Trump is awful. We all know that but he's not racist, folks. He's just not no matter how much you want him to prove to be one. Why do we have statues honoring men who were treasonous to our country? You do not find this to be odd? On top of that, these men honored in statues were responsible for wanting to keep slavery and killed Americans to try to make that happen. So yeah, I can see why people would want to rip down these statues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 08:30 PM) Why do we have statues honoring men who were treasonous to our country? You do not find this to be odd? On top of that, these men honored in statues were responsible for wanting to keep slavery and killed Americans to try to make that happen. So yeah, I can see why people would want to rip down these statues. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...w-colonies.html Abraham Lincoln wanted to ship freed black slaves away from the US to British colonies in the Caribbean even in the final months of his life, it has emerged. There's the problem of where do we draw the line???...which is the only point Trump made I would agree with, not necessarily comparing Robert E. Lee to Washington/Jefferson due to their slave-holding past (or having multiple children with Sally Hemings, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 It's amazing how much damage Trump has managed in his short tenure in office. I didn't think Democrats had much of a chance in the 2018 mid-terms, but at this rate Trump will single handily deliver a wave in the Democrats favor. They don't even need a message or platform, they can stand ideally by and just let Trump continue his unraveling. Looking back I clearly gave the man too much credit. The signs of his bigotry were there, but when you put it on display in blatant fashion during a televised press conference it's completely unforgivable. I've been of the opinion he still had time to turn things around and establish some credibility to his presidency. But after today it's over, his political career is done, and it's now just a matter of how many people he's taking with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (mac9001 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 09:29 PM) It's amazing how much damage Trump has managed in his short tenure in office. I didn't think Democrats had much of a chance in the 2018 mid-terms, but at this rate Trump will single handily deliver a wave in the Democrats favor. They don't even need a message or platform, they can stand ideally by and just let Trump continue his unraveling. Looking back I clearly gave the man too much credit. The signs of his bigotry were there, but when you put it on display in blatant fashion during a televised press conference it's completely unforgivable. I've been of the opinion he still had time to turn things around and establish some credibility to his presidency. But after today it's over, his political career is done, and it's now just a matter of how many people he's taking with him. The crazy thing is because of redistricting/gerrymandering (and the number of "safe" districts on BOTH sides) that the Dems still have probably only a 50/50 shot at winning back the House in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 10:39 PM) The crazy thing is because of redistricting/gerrymandering (and the number of "safe" districts on BOTH sides) that the Dems still have probably only a 50/50 shot at winning back the House in 2018. That was part of the reason I had my doubts, but as I sit here today there's no doubt in my mind they're going to win the house back and probably convincingly. The level of damage Trump has inflicted to the Republican party has already reached a breaking point and he still has a year left. I've had similar discussions and fell back on a belief that there wasn't sufficient backlash against the greater Republican establishment in the way the Tea Party represented a clear rejection of the policies being enacted by liberals. While the Republicans don't have any legislative achievements to create a similar liberal backlash they will eventually contribution to the damage Trump has inflicted by some degree of legislative political overreach. At this point in Obama's presidency there wasn't a overwhelming fear of a Republican mid-term wave, the fact we're sitting here and discussing that distinct possibility so early is a bad sign for Republican political prospects. One issue that has plagued Democrats despite their voting success with minorities is they've never really over performed from a demographic standpoint with the exception of an increased turnout rate amount African Americans during the Obama years. With the events that transpired today it gives Democrats a powerful message; if you're not white, we're your only hope. That's not a very good message, but fear is an equally powerful motivating factor to hope. Edited August 16, 2017 by mac9001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (mac9001 @ Aug 15, 2017 -> 10:07 PM) That was part of the reason I had my doubts, but as I sit here today there's no doubt in my mind they're going to win the house back and probably convincingly. The level of damage Trump has inflicted to the Republican party has already reached a breaking point and he still has a year left. I've had similar discussions and fell back on a belief that there wasn't sufficient backlash against the greater Republican establishment in the way the Tea Party represented a clear rejection of the policies being enacted by liberals. While the Republicans don't have any legislative achievements to create a similar liberal backlash they will eventually contribution to the damage Trump has inflicted by some degree of legislative political overreach. At this point in Obama's presidency there wasn't a overwhelming fear of a Republican mid-term wave, the fact we're sitting here and discussing that distinct possibility so early is a bad sign for Republican political prospects. One issue that has plagued Democrats despite their voting success with minorities is they've never really over performed from a demographic standpoint with the exception of an increased turnout rate amount African Americans during the Obama years. With the events that transpired today it gives Democrats a powerful message; if you're not white, we're your only hope. That's not a very good message, but fear is an equally powerful motivating factor to hope. Yeah, the second Clinton race (against Dole) would probably be the other example where the Dems did exceedingly well with African-American voters. But he ruined all that accrued good will during the 2008 South Carolina Primary with his wife vs. Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) The huge issue is that every negative quality that one group of people say about another group of people whom they want to oppress and denigrate, are projections about their own behavior that they are embarrassed about. When the right winger says: Welfare queens take advantage of the system and are lazy and don't want to work They mean: 1. I don't pay my fair share of taxes nor do I give to charity to help the needy, and I don't want to. 2. I have a safe, secure job and I really don't do anything there but the bare minimum to stay employed. Every day I go to work I steal from my company. I am the lazy one. If I point the finger at someone who doesn't have the job opportunities to live comfortably like I do, then it makes me feel better about stealing time from my employer, and not paying my taxes. When the right winger says: The problem isn't the police officers beating minorities, it is that people think that the rules don't apply to them, and they are an entitled brats who have no respect for authority They mean: I think the rules don't apply to me. I don't like minorities. I think they are subhuman. I am above the law. I have enough money to make any problem I have legally, go away. I can just pay a lawyer to get me off the hook. I am the entitled brat. I just have to blame it on somebody else to make me feel better about my taking advantage of the system due to having a large paycheck. When the right winger says: Being gay is a choice. High functioning autism is a con made by people who don't want to work, and are too mentally weak to handle real life. They mean: These people make me uncomfortable. I don't want to deal with them, because they are different. I think they are disgusting because they have sex with people of the same gender or have trouble with social boundaries/personal hygiene. I choose to be closed minded, I am too mentally weak to handle it. I lack the critical thinking skills to come to the conclusion that these things are real issues. Why would anyone choose to behave in this manner, when it is very out of the ordinary? Life is hard enough. Why would someone add this burden to it? When the right winger says: If I have to raise wages, then there will be less jobs They mean: I am a greedy SOB. I don't want to pay people a living wage, because my standard of living will change marginally and that is too uncomfortable. Maybe I can't afford that new yacht on the Lake every 5 years. Now I have to wait 8. I don't care. I want it now, because I am a whiny, entitled petulant child. This is my I am skirting the responsibility of paying my employees fairly and giving people what they need to live comfortably or survive. Not only will I not pay them, I will not give them the tools necessary to succeed at the goals I've set for them. This way I can continue to lower their pay, because my company is doing barely well enough to stay in business, and I want all of it. It is MINE. You can't have more than x amount, even though you've done all of the work, and I've been out at the country club all week. I have more of these that I will post later. Edited August 16, 2017 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Since Trump said he had to wait because he didn't want to comment without the facts, it is amazing he got the purpose of the March wrong. It wasn't a protest about removing the statue per se, it was call unite the white organized be so,e apparently fine people. Foe a guy who rips every news agency for being fake, no one is more fake than Trump. Just look at his yellow hair and orange face and you get the idea, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 01:04 AM) The huge issue is that every negative quality that one group of people say about another group of people whom they want to oppress and denigrate, are projections about their own behavior that they are embarrassed about. When the right winger says: Welfare queens take advantage of the system and are lazy and don't want to work They mean: 1. I don't pay my fair share of taxes nor do I give to charity to help the needy, and I don't want to. 2. I have a safe, secure job and I really don't do anything there but the bare minimum to stay employed. Every day I go to work I steal from my company. I am the lazy one. If I point the finger at someone who doesn't have the job opportunities to live comfortably like I do, then it makes me feel better about stealing time from my employer, and not paying my taxes. When the right winger says: The problem isn't the police officers beating minorities, it is that people think that the rules don't apply to them, and they are an entitled brats who have no respect for authority They mean: I think the rules don't apply to me. I don't like minorities. I think they are subhuman. I am above the law. I have enough money to make any problem I have legally, go away. I can just pay a lawyer to get me off the hook. I am the entitled brat. I just have to blame it on somebody else to make me feel better about my taking advantage of the system due to having a large paycheck. When the right winger says: Being gay is a choice. High functioning autism is a con made by people who don't want to work, and are too mentally weak to handle real life. They mean: These people make me uncomfortable. I don't want to deal with them, because they are different. I think they are disgusting because they have sex with people of the same gender or have trouble with social boundaries/personal hygiene. I choose to be closed minded, I am too mentally weak to handle it. I lack the critical thinking skills to come to the conclusion that these things are real issues. Why would anyone choose to behave in this manner, when it is very out of the ordinary? Life is hard enough. Why would someone add this burden to it? When the right winger says: If I have to raise wages, then there will be less jobs They mean: I am a greedy SOB. I don't want to pay people a living wage, because my standard of living will change marginally and that is too uncomfortable. Maybe I can't afford that new yacht on the Lake every 5 years. Now I have to wait 8. I don't care. I want it now, because I am a whiny, entitled petulant child. This is my I am skirting the responsibility of paying my employees fairly and giving people what they need to live comfortably or survive. Not only will I not pay them, I will not give them the tools necessary to succeed at the goals I've set for them. This way I can continue to lower their pay, because my company is doing barely well enough to stay in business, and I want all of it. It is MINE. You can't have more than x amount, even though you've done all of the work, and I've been out at the country club all week. I have more of these that I will post later. I have my popcorn ready for "when the left winger says" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) From Robyn, Charlottesville resident "There seems to be a perception from people outside of charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right " banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked k k k. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on there way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the altright folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging each other on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents, water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending. I'm glad you're following the situation, but your generalizations are inaccurate in this case. Be blessed." https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-weigh-...-082540773.html Top reader comment following this story Rainbow flag flying North Carolina woman confronts man flying Nazi flag at his home https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-carolina-w...-180615457.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/tearful-van-jone...-035620606.html Van Jones broke down as he said he was thinking of his godmother, who is Jewish and whose family had suffered during World War II, and how she cannot count on the President of the United States to defend and sympathize with her. “It’s not just the people you’re emboldening,” Jones said of Trump’s comments. “It’s the people you’re abandoning, who now don’t know if they have a government that gives a damn about them ... I don’t know what to say tonight ... I’m sitting here hurt.” Edited August 16, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Donald Trump's failure in Charlottesville wasn't political -- it was moral http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/don...ence/index.html It is impossible -- given the last two years of Trump -- to conclude he is simply fumbling his way around on issues of race, gender and ethnic heritage. The mountain of evidence gathered suggests just the opposite: That he is purposely saying and doing things to make murky moral questions that should be crystal clear. And why is he doing it? For political gain. That is the opposite of what being president of the United States should be. Hell, it's the opposite of what being a citizen of this country should be. What Trump is doing is dangerous -- for our politics and for our moral fiber. To condone white supremacists by insisting there are two sides to every coin is to take us back decades in our understanding of each other. It is to undo decades worth of progress toward a freer and better country for all people. To do so purposely to score political points or stick it in the eye of your supposed media enemies is, frankly, despicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Please delete, duplicate post Donald Trump's failure in Charlottesville wasn't political -- it was moral http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/don...ence/index.html It is impossible -- given the last two years of Trump -- to conclude he is simply fumbling his way around on issues of race, gender and ethnic heritage. The mountain of evidence gathered suggests just the opposite: That he is purposely saying and doing things to make murky moral questions that should be crystal clear. And why is he doing it? For political gain. That is the opposite of what being president of the United States should be. Hell, it's the opposite of what being a citizen of this country should be. What Trump is doing is dangerous -- for our politics and for our moral fiber. To condone white supremacists by insisting there are two sides to every coin is to take us back decades in our understanding of each other. It is to undo decades worth of progress toward a freer and better country for all people. To do so purposely to score political points or stick it in the eye of your supposed media enemies is, frankly, despicable. Edited August 16, 2017 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Caulfield, you know you can delete your own posts, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 01:04 AM) The huge issue is that every negative quality that one group of people say about another group of people whom they want to oppress and denigrate, are projections about their own behavior that they are embarrassed about. When the right winger says: Welfare queens take advantage of the system and are lazy and don't want to work They mean: 1. I don't pay my fair share of taxes nor do I give to charity to help the needy, and I don't want to. 2. I have a safe, secure job and I really don't do anything there but the bare minimum to stay employed. Every day I go to work I steal from my company. I am the lazy one. If I point the finger at someone who doesn't have the job opportunities to live comfortably like I do, then it makes me feel better about stealing time from my employer, and not paying my taxes. When the right winger says: The problem isn't the police officers beating minorities, it is that people think that the rules don't apply to them, and they are an entitled brats who have no respect for authority They mean: I think the rules don't apply to me. I don't like minorities. I think they are subhuman. I am above the law. I have enough money to make any problem I have legally, go away. I can just pay a lawyer to get me off the hook. I am the entitled brat. I just have to blame it on somebody else to make me feel better about my taking advantage of the system due to having a large paycheck. When the right winger says: Being gay is a choice. High functioning autism is a con made by people who don't want to work, and are too mentally weak to handle real life. They mean: These people make me uncomfortable. I don't want to deal with them, because they are different. I think they are disgusting because they have sex with people of the same gender or have trouble with social boundaries/personal hygiene. I choose to be closed minded, I am too mentally weak to handle it. I lack the critical thinking skills to come to the conclusion that these things are real issues. Why would anyone choose to behave in this manner, when it is very out of the ordinary? Life is hard enough. Why would someone add this burden to it? When the right winger says: If I have to raise wages, then there will be less jobs They mean: I am a greedy SOB. I don't want to pay people a living wage, because my standard of living will change marginally and that is too uncomfortable. Maybe I can't afford that new yacht on the Lake every 5 years. Now I have to wait 8. I don't care. I want it now, because I am a whiny, entitled petulant child. This is my I am skirting the responsibility of paying my employees fairly and giving people what they need to live comfortably or survive. Not only will I not pay them, I will not give them the tools necessary to succeed at the goals I've set for them. This way I can continue to lower their pay, because my company is doing barely well enough to stay in business, and I want all of it. It is MINE. You can't have more than x amount, even though you've done all of the work, and I've been out at the country club all week. I have more of these that I will post later. WTF...this is a perfect example of partisanism at its worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 01:04 AM) The huge issue is that every negative quality that one group of people say about another group of people whom they want to oppress and denigrate, are projections about their own behavior that they are embarrassed about. When the right winger says: Welfare queens take advantage of the system and are lazy and don't want to work They mean: 1. I don't pay my fair share of taxes nor do I give to charity to help the needy, and I don't want to. 2. I have a safe, secure job and I really don't do anything there but the bare minimum to stay employed. Every day I go to work I steal from my company. I am the lazy one. If I point the finger at someone who doesn't have the job opportunities to live comfortably like I do, then it makes me feel better about stealing time from my employer, and not paying my taxes. When the right winger says: The problem isn't the police officers beating minorities, it is that people think that the rules don't apply to them, and they are an entitled brats who have no respect for authority They mean: I think the rules don't apply to me. I don't like minorities. I think they are subhuman. I am above the law. I have enough money to make any problem I have legally, go away. I can just pay a lawyer to get me off the hook. I am the entitled brat. I just have to blame it on somebody else to make me feel better about my taking advantage of the system due to having a large paycheck. When the right winger says: Being gay is a choice. High functioning autism is a con made by people who don't want to work, and are too mentally weak to handle real life. They mean: These people make me uncomfortable. I don't want to deal with them, because they are different. I think they are disgusting because they have sex with people of the same gender or have trouble with social boundaries/personal hygiene. I choose to be closed minded, I am too mentally weak to handle it. I lack the critical thinking skills to come to the conclusion that these things are real issues. Why would anyone choose to behave in this manner, when it is very out of the ordinary? Life is hard enough. Why would someone add this burden to it? When the right winger says: If I have to raise wages, then there will be less jobs They mean: I am a greedy SOB. I don't want to pay people a living wage, because my standard of living will change marginally and that is too uncomfortable. Maybe I can't afford that new yacht on the Lake every 5 years. Now I have to wait 8. I don't care. I want it now, because I am a whiny, entitled petulant child. This is my I am skirting the responsibility of paying my employees fairly and giving people what they need to live comfortably or survive. Not only will I not pay them, I will not give them the tools necessary to succeed at the goals I've set for them. This way I can continue to lower their pay, because my company is doing barely well enough to stay in business, and I want all of it. It is MINE. You can't have more than x amount, even though you've done all of the work, and I've been out at the country club all week. I have more of these that I will post later. Do you ultimately, but I don't see how this post does anything but rile people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (Jack Parkman @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 01:04 AM) The huge issue is that every negative quality that one group of people say about another group of people whom they want to oppress and denigrate, are projections about their own behavior that they are embarrassed about. When the right winger says: Welfare queens take advantage of the system and are lazy and don't want to work They mean: 1. I don't pay my fair share of taxes nor do I give to charity to help the needy, and I don't want to. 2. I have a safe, secure job and I really don't do anything there but the bare minimum to stay employed. Every day I go to work I steal from my company. I am the lazy one. If I point the finger at someone who doesn't have the job opportunities to live comfortably like I do, then it makes me feel better about stealing time from my employer, and not paying my taxes. When the right winger says: The problem isn't the police officers beating minorities, it is that people think that the rules don't apply to them, and they are an entitled brats who have no respect for authority They mean: I think the rules don't apply to me. I don't like minorities. I think they are subhuman. I am above the law. I have enough money to make any problem I have legally, go away. I can just pay a lawyer to get me off the hook. I am the entitled brat. I just have to blame it on somebody else to make me feel better about my taking advantage of the system due to having a large paycheck. When the right winger says: Being gay is a choice. High functioning autism is a con made by people who don't want to work, and are too mentally weak to handle real life. They mean: These people make me uncomfortable. I don't want to deal with them, because they are different. I think they are disgusting because they have sex with people of the same gender or have trouble with social boundaries/personal hygiene. I choose to be closed minded, I am too mentally weak to handle it. I lack the critical thinking skills to come to the conclusion that these things are real issues. Why would anyone choose to behave in this manner, when it is very out of the ordinary? Life is hard enough. Why would someone add this burden to it? When the right winger says: If I have to raise wages, then there will be less jobs They mean: I am a greedy SOB. I don't want to pay people a living wage, because my standard of living will change marginally and that is too uncomfortable. Maybe I can't afford that new yacht on the Lake every 5 years. Now I have to wait 8. I don't care. I want it now, because I am a whiny, entitled petulant child. This is my I am skirting the responsibility of paying my employees fairly and giving people what they need to live comfortably or survive. Not only will I not pay them, I will not give them the tools necessary to succeed at the goals I've set for them. This way I can continue to lower their pay, because my company is doing barely well enough to stay in business, and I want all of it. It is MINE. You can't have more than x amount, even though you've done all of the work, and I've been out at the country club all week. I have more of these that I will post later. And this is why the "right winger" votes for Donald Trump, as this is the left's public view of anyone to the left of Hillary Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 06:26 AM) From Robyn, Charlottesville resident "There seems to be a perception from people outside of charlottesville that what is going on here is two opposing groups coming to town and fighting some ideological battle that has gotten messy. That is not what is happening here. What is happening here is that several hate groups from the extreme right have come together under the "unite the right " banner here in our town and basically started acting as terrorists. This may seem like an exaggeration but it's not. A church service was held over because they had surrounded the building and police had to disperse them. People had to be escorted to their cars. My friend was there with her daughter. Everywhere they meet, businesses close. We had drive by shootings yesterday from a van marked k k k. A car plowed into a huge group of people. I'm sure you saw that on the newsfeeds. What you probably didn't see is that some of those people were on there way back from helping to repel a white supremacist march to predominately black housing development a few blocks away where they were attempting home invasions. I guess they were unfamiliar with the neighborhood. The residents repelled that one before antifa got there but there is some video of the altright folks getting run off on the daily progress twitter feed, if you're interested. So, basically, what I'd like you to understand is, this IS NOT two side egging each other on to unavoidable violence for more attention. This is one side of terrorists declaring that they can and will hold a town hostage (they've been saying it for over a month now, actually) and the town responding to that threat. The car that killed and injured people yesterday? Ohio tags. The medic tents, water bottles, snacks, shade tents (all volunteer, donations, none shut down by police... all manned by that radical left you keep hearing about) yeah, we all live here. I saw a lot of people I knew yesterday, none of them were speaking for unite the right. None of them were escalating violence, most of them were offering some kind of aid and defending. I'm glad you're following the situation, but your generalizations are inaccurate in this case. Be blessed." https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-weigh-...-082540773.html Top reader comment following this story Rainbow flag flying North Carolina woman confronts man flying Nazi flag at his home https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-carolina-w...-180615457.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/tearful-van-jone...-035620606.html Van Jones broke down as he said he was thinking of his godmother, who is Jewish and whose family had suffered during World War II, and how she cannot count on the President of the United States to defend and sympathize with her. “It’s not just the people you’re emboldening,” Jones said of Trump’s comments. “It’s the people you’re abandoning, who now don’t know if they have a government that gives a damn about them ... I don’t know what to say tonight ... I’m sitting here hurt.” I really doubt the accuracy of all of that first post. Yahoo comment sections as news unlikely to reward your intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 08:07 AM) I really doubt the accuracy of all of that first post. Yahoo comment sections as news unlikely to reward your intelligence. Yahoo comment sections are no longer a good source for news? Next thing you are gonna tell me is that they aren't good for medical advice either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 16, 2017 -> 08:07 AM) I really doubt the accuracy of all of that first post. Yahoo comment sections as news unlikely to reward your intelligence. It was a unite the right gathering, not a peaceful protest of the removal of a statue President doesn't want to comment until he has all the facts claims. But then again, they had a permit. Of course they violated that permit. Another fact agent Orange failed to know. Edited August 16, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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