President Donald Trump: The Thread

[southsider2k5]

If I wanted to move to Mike Madigan's precinct and run against him, how long would I have to live there? Do people in his precinct actually think he's doing a good job and vote him in or is there poor turnout?

 

2 years.

 

http://elections.il.gov/Downloads/Election...ralassembly.pdf

[Soxbadger]

Turns out Trump's investigation into voters registered in 2 states is coming up comedy gold:

 

Donald J. TrumpVerified account

‏@realDonaldTrump

 

I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and....

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-po...m=.692789a59afd

 

So all Trump had to do was look into his own family and cabinet. So far Tiffany Trump, Jared Kushner, plus Mnuchin and Spicer may all have been registered in multiple states.

 

For the record, being registered in 2 states is not illegal, but there is something hilarious about Trump's phrasing and the people who are allegedly registered in 2 states.

[Big Hurtin]

The guy is totally off the rails. He's pissing and moaning about how the size of his inauguration crowd is being presented. He wants to investigate voter fraud, AND HE WON! When does this ever happen!?

[Soxbadger]

The guy is totally off the rails. He's pissing and moaning about how the size of his inauguration crowd is being presented. He wants to investigate voter fraud, AND HE WON! When does this ever happen!?

 

Sometimes you just have to laugh. I mean there is just so much hilarity in

 

You have people that are registered who are dead, who are illegals, who are in two states. You have people registered in two states. They're registered in a New York and a New Jersey. They vote twice. There are millions of votes, in my opinion. Now …

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...m=.61131fd214ba

 

When his son in law, Jared Kushner, was registered to vote in NY and NJ.

 

That being said, I am actually trying to think of any event where someone who won, wanted to launch an investigation to prove that they won by more.

 

I know I know, there should be more "discourse" about this. Because Trump was so respectful of Obama, and we obviously should give him the same respect.

 

 

 

[Big Hurtin]

Wow.

 

#FLASH - Trumps White House Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, tweets out password, not once, but twice in 2 days. Just amazing. pic.twitter.com/dwZFKx4RqB

— JΞSTΞR ✪ ΔCTUAL³³º¹ (@th3j35t3r) January 26, 2017

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[caulfield12]

Sometimes you just have to laugh. I mean there is just so much hilarity in

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...m=.61131fd214ba

 

When his son in law, Jared Kushner, was registered to vote in NY and NJ.

 

That being said, I am actually trying to think of any event where someone who won, wanted to launch an investigation to prove that they won by more.

 

I know I know, there should be more "discourse" about this. Because Trump was so respectful of Obama, and we obviously should give him the same respect.

 

 

Adrian Beltre appealing checked swing calls, lol...

Edited January 27, 2017 by caulfield12

[Balta1701]

The train wreck continues.

 

The State Department’s entire senior management team just resigned

Here's an updated State Department Org Chart.

 

Blue X's are unfilled appointee positions. Red X's are resignations. pic.twitter.com/gF5p0YGFKC

— Emily Roslin v Praze (@EmilyGorcenski) January 26, 2017

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[caulfield12]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/business...yp=cur&_r=0

 

WASHINGTON — Just days after President Trump spoke of a “running war’’ with the media, his chief White House strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, ratcheted up the attacks, arguing that news organizations had been “humiliated” by the election outcome and repeatedly describing the media as “the opposition party” of the current administration.

 

“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while,” Mr. Bannon said in an interview on Wednesday.

 

“I want you to quote this,” Mr. Bannon added. “The media here is the opposition party. They don’t understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States.”

[caulfield12]

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<!--quotec-->The train wreck continues.

 

The State Department’s entire senior management team just resigned

Here's an updated State Department Org Chart.

 

Blue X's are unfilled appointee positions. Red X's are resignations. pic.twitter.com/gF5p0YGFKC

— Emily Roslin v Praze (@EmilyGorcenski) January 26, 2017

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Are we talking about the four highly-experienced senior level staff forced out (resigned, but under threat)? Or this is something different?

Edited January 27, 2017 by caulfield12

[Soxbadger]

If anyone is up for some discourse on immigration, here is an article about how the war on illegal immigrants is potentially leaving billions of revenue on the table for the US govt

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1738312a-eec1-...%3A-forget.html

 

Thus, the total swing in the Federal budget could be as much as $50 billion per year.

 

we can consider a market-based approach which not only addresses most of the concerns about illegal immigration, but generates substantial funds for the U.S. government.

 

Im pretty sure some people on here self identify as libertarian, so I think that this issue, coupled with the Republican parties denouncement of free trade, would provide some interesting discourse.

Edited January 27, 2017 by Soxbadger

[Balta1701]

Are we talking about the four highly-experienced senior level staff forced out (resigned, but under threat)? Or this is something different?

They're on there as some of the 2 dozen vacancies, but that's only part of the issue - they haven't bothered coming up with nominees for many of the other positions on that graphic, many of whom require Senate confirmation. So basically, right now the State department is leaderless, there's no one to make the basic day-to-day decisions that happen when you're doing things like dealing with trade and visitation from foreign leaders, and it's not the fault of the Senate.

[southsider2k5]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/business...yp=cur&_r=0

 

WASHINGTON — Just days after President Trump spoke of a "running war'' with the media, his chief White House strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, ratcheted up the attacks, arguing that news organizations had been "humiliated" by the election outcome and repeatedly describing the media as "the opposition party" of the current administration.

 

"The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while," Mr. Bannon said in an interview on Wednesday.

 

"I want you to quote this," Mr. Bannon added. "The media here is the opposition party. They don't understand this country. They still do not understand why Donald Trump is the president of the United States."

 

The last sentence is 100% true.

[caulfield12]

Consider that while the ban would make exceptions for "religious minorities" fleeing religious persecution in their home countries, it expressly denies entry to Muslim refugees fleeing religious persecution from Muslim governments. In other words, a Druze fearing oppression in Syria would be allowed in the United States under Trump's proposed ban, but a Sunni facing slaughter would not. A Christian fleeing discrimination in Yemen would be given entry, but a Shia facing death and starvation would not. A Baha'i seeking refuge from Iran would be welcomed in America, but a moderate Muslim family such as mine fleeing Islamic fundamentalism would not.

 

Trump has also argued that the restrictions would focus on countries whose migrants could pose a threat to Americans. But this, too, is a lie. If this act were meant to safeguard the homeland from citizens from terror-prone countries, then it would include (which it reportedly doesn't) a ban on citizens from Saudi Arabia -- a country whose citizens have killed more American civilians than every other banned country on Trump's list combined. Indeed, of the 19 terrorists who attacked us on 9/11, 15 were from Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Egypt and one from Lebanon. Not a single one of these countries are on Trump's banned list, though, with the possible exception of Lebanon, Trump has business ties in all of them.

 

All of this proves that this executive order is nothing more than a cynical cover for what Trump has repeatedly promised would be a complete ban on Muslims entering the United States (Muslims he doesn't make a profit from, that is), and the full-frontal assault on the civil rights of Muslim citizens in the United States. That is not fear-mongering; it is not an exaggeration. It is explicitly what Trump vowed to do as president when he discussed creating a database for all Muslims in the United States; when he threatened to send American citizens to the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; when he assembled the most rabidly anti-Muslim Cabinet in recent memory, including a national security adviser who believes "Islam is not a real religion, but a political ideology masked behind a religion"; when he reportedly gets his views and policies about Muslims from officially designated hate groups.

 

Cnn.com

[Quin]

The last sentence is 100% true.

 

Yeah, I don't understand why elderly Republicans feel the need to scream at my students for covering their election event without bias, saying the poor liberal media and poor college students are f***ed.

 

What we don't understand is that no matter the sourcing, the facts proven, the vetting, etc. why the Trump supporters are so willing to believe easily proven and verifiable lies. MSNBC, Fox and CNN do not an industry make.

 

But then again, resident White House Nazi Steve Bannon knows.

[Quin]

What we do understand is that Trump tapped into anger and talking points and that people wanted to hear, they just felt comfortable not paying attention to who said it.

[Quin]

Steve f***ing Bannon's quote is nothing more than another attempt at de and intimidating the media. Just like how the White House's weekly immigrant crime list is nothing more than Nazi Propaganda 101.

[caulfield12]

The last sentence is 100% true.

 

But nobody in modern history has been able to treat the entire non-conservative or liberal media...and especially the majority of countries in the world as the enemy, and survive.

 

Threatening, mocking, bullying and non-payment might work as a successful business negotiating tactic to get the best deal, but it won't work for long diplomatically. It's going to cause Europe to band together and unite...Mexico/Canada with Central and South America, the signatories to the TPP with China, etc.

 

Especially if Russia and the US start cooperating, with India joining in all likelihood.

 

It would put the UK and Japan in extremely difficult positions as well.

 

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mayor-miami-dade...-021840090.html

Individual cities (Miami, Dade County) are already beginning to heed immigration detention requests...and we are one step closer to vigilantes and civilian posses forming to "assist" the government, ala George Zimmerman.

 

The stage is nearly set for the looming battle over California regarding sanctuary cities. Trump will send the National Guard there as well?

 

 

 

But the determination to keep campaign promises is verging on an obsession inside the Trump White House. Those close to the President believe that despite the uproar in Washington, the actions are being well received.

 

"If you are somebody sitting at home, you say, 'Wow, there's a lot going on here.' The media bubbles on the coast are not the people Trump is talking to," said a senior aide . "The people that Donald Trump is talking to are the thousands of counties that he won."

 

But Trump isn't dispensing with the Washington game entirely. He spent considerable time with congressional leaders this week, a big departure from Obama, who once joked to journalists who criticized his reluctance to socialize with top Republicans: "Why don't you get a drink with Mitch McConnell?"

 

 

 

Lindsey Graham

17h17 hours ago

Lindsey Graham ‏@LindseyGrahamSC

Simply put, any policy proposal which drives up costs of Corona, tequila, or margaritas is a big-time bad idea. Mucho Sad. (2)

 

 

Lindsey Graham

17h17 hours ago

Lindsey Graham ‏@LindseyGrahamSC

Border security yes, tariffs no. Mexico is 3rd largest trading partner. Any tariff we can levy they can levy. Huge barrier to econ growth /1

Edited January 27, 2017 by caulfield12

[caulfield12]

They're on there as some of the 2 dozen vacancies, but that's only part of the issue - they haven't bothered coming up with nominees for many of the other positions on that graphic, many of whom require Senate confirmation. So basically, right now the State department is leaderless, there's no one to make the basic day-to-day decisions that happen when you're doing things like dealing with trade and visitation from foreign leaders, and it's not the fault of the Senate.

 

And Tillerson basically has zero experience in diplomacy, now w/ nobody to rely upon for advice and guidance.

Edited January 27, 2017 by caulfield12

[Jenksismyhero]

Wow.

 

#FLASH - Trumps White House Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, tweets out password, not once, but twice in 2 days. Just amazing. pic.twitter.com/dwZFKx4RqB

— JΞSTΞR ✪ ΔCTUAL³³º¹ (@th3j35t3r) January 26, 2017

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I saw that but there are no capital letters in the passwords which make me think it's a butt tweet situation.

[pettie4sox]

Has a presidential transition been this clusterf*** esque before?

[caulfield12]

Has a presidential transition been this clusterf*** esque before?

 

Maybe after Lincoln's assasination? Andrew Johnson.

Ford taking over for Nixon?

Nixon becoming president after everything that happened in 1968?

 

Nothing comes to mind.

 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/hannity-trump-snl-...-043007340.html

Coming soon, Sean Hannity as press secretary...

Edited January 27, 2017 by caulfield12

[GoSox05]

Not really a transition, but Nixon taking office after his reelection was a total mess.

 

 

[brett05]

Thoughts on the new Wall tax? I thought Mexico was going to pay for it.

You thought that prior to each "brick" a "buck" was going to be sent over? Come on now.

[brett05]

Is Mexico going to pay for it? Keep moving the goal posts.

Not a single post was moved, but keep believing that it was.

Will Mexico pay for it? Right now Trump has been keeping his campaign promises so I have no reason to believe otherwise.

[Harry Chappas]

If I wanted to move to Mike Madigan's precinct and run against him, how long would I have to live there? Do people in his precinct actually think he's doing a good job and vote him in or is there poor turnout?

 

He will never lose. That area is represented by Dan Lipinski as well.

 

Their rep at state and federal levels has not changed since 1983 yet the demographics have pretty much turned completely over.

 

The alderman, Ed Burke has been in that role has 1969.

 

The epitome of machine politics and why the state, county and state are in the shape they are.

 

Glad to see the new Comptroller and Lisa Madigan are working to make sure the machine does not slow down.