RockRaines Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I’m really surprised at the lack of knowledge around both the flag and the national anthem. Also people using military funeral pictures as memes can go f*** themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 04:18 AM) That's complete bulls***. Look, I was a Bernie lover and Hillary hater. Lots of us out there. The Democrats failed us in giving us Hillary vs. Trump. Trump should never have won; should never have gotten any momentum. It's also the Republicans fault for giving us such lousy opposition in the primaries to Trump. I mean Trump just lacerated everybody so to speak. He bullied Bush; he made the surgeon Carson seem like a sturgeon; he annihilated Carly; he never allowed Kasisch to gain any steam. Had any of the traditional candidates looked presidential instead of clownish Trump would have dropped out early in the primary season. Don't forget there were tons of Americans against Hillary. The Democrats coulda went Bernie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 12:58 AM) Look, I was a Bernie lover and Hillary hater. Lots of us out there. The Democrats failed us in giving us Hillary vs. Trump. Trump should never have won; should never have gotten any momentum. It's also the Republicans fault for giving us such lousy opposition in the primaries to Trump. I mean Trump just lacerated everybody so to speak. He bullied Bush; he made the surgeon Carson seem like a sturgeon; he annihilated Carly; he never allowed Kasisch to gain any steam. Had any of the traditional candidates looked presidential instead of clownish Trump would have dropped out early in the primary season. Don't forget there were tons of Americans against Hillary. The Democrats coulda went Bernie. Trump is president now, there is no time to worry about what could have been. If D's really want to dethrone Trump next election, they better start clicking with the common folks and not their typical business as usual shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Encouraging a boycott of the NFL. Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The business president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 He may encourage some older ladies who dont watch the NFL in the first place, but trump's base watches football, and they arent going to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Lol. You know it’s bad when Jesse Ventura opposes you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Steelers wil not participate in the National Anthem today at Soldier Field. They will stay in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 From Jackie Robinson's autobiography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Well, Trump is showing what happens when a rich guy (one who likes Twitter; most old rich folk don't embrace Twitter) who also is an opinionated loudmouth after years of yes men kissing his butt becomes president. This taking on the sports world is troublesome obviously. Now there are going to be protests during the anthem pretty much at every sports game played the next 3 years. However, the protests will be against Trump more than the actual social injustice issue. So now, we are going to have to hear incessantly after each game and during each game about which players protested and which didn't. Then we are going to have to hear from the players themselves to explain if they were protesting against Trump or the social issues or both. My point is at every sporting event now, I'd say 1/4 to 1/2 the coverage of the game itself will be political bulls***. The NFL players and NBA players need to just stay in the locker rooms during the anthem and say, "Until we comment further, the reason these players (then list them) are not on the court for the anthem is a protest against Donald Trump." Then put "the reason these players (and list them) are not on the court is a protest against Donald Trump as well as social injustice." Then put (and list the players) 'The reason these players are not on the court are they are responding to social injustice; they are fine with Trump." And then put "the reason these players are not on the court (and list them) are a sign of support to groups a and b." Otherwise this is all gonna be all politics during our sporting events all the time. The nonsequitir here is the playing at the anthem at NFL games is usually an amazing spectacle with jets flying overhead and sometimes those big flags that cover the field. And at most games some military (who wear the flag proudly) are honored. So the NFL has embraced the anthem big time. Most sports have. Now it's going to be all protest all the time, because if players don't protest they are going to be afraid it's a sign they approve of Trump. I'd prefer the NFL players and other sports merely hold signs during the anthem saying, "We demand Donald Trump's resignation." Otherwise this is a messy attack on the anthem when the current anger is over Trump the chump. Edited September 24, 2017 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 They are not protesting trump..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 03:13 PM) They are not protesting trump..... They definitely are, but only protesting him as the symptom, not the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 02:25 PM) They definitely are, but only protesting him as the symptom, not the disease. The protest was and still is about racial inequality. unfortunately the president is stoking that fire. But its still not about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 National anthems at sports game is a stupid nationalistic tradition that has to be done away with anyway. Perhaps the recent news will start a discussion on that. . And yes, I second that the democrats utterly failed to present anything competitive against the Republicans Trump. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 09:43 PM) National anthems at sports game is a stupid nationalistic tradition that has to be done away with anyway. Perhaps the recent news will start a discussion on that. . And yes, I second that the democrats utterly failed to present anything competitive against the Republicans Trump. Otherwise, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. I think I agree. The anthem has to go cause of all the protests. Also I disagree with Rock. Today's amped up protests are because of what Trump said. They didn't all of a sudden get hundreds of players to protest cause of the initial issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 06:27 AM) Encouraging a boycott of the NFL. Nice The NFL should sue him. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Trump said we have a great country, so he must have already made it great again. I wonder if it was OK to kneel last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Jared Kushner has used private email to communicate with other WH staff, his attorney has confirmed. Lock him up. Edited September 25, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Awesome Trump rant by George Clooney. Worth a read: Here’s the thing: I grew up in Kentucky. I sold insurance door-to-door. I sold ladies’ shoes. I worked at an all-night liquor store. I would buy suits that were too big and too long and cut the bottom of the pants off to make ties so I’d have a tie to go on job interviews. I grew up understanding what it was like to not have health insurance for eight years. So this idea that I’m somehow the “Hollywood elite” and this guy who takes a s*** in a gold toilet is somehow the man of the people is laughable. People in Hollywood, for the most part, are people from the Midwest who moved to Hollywood to have a career. So this idea of “coastal elites” living in a bubble is ridiculous. Who lives in a bigger bubble? He lives in a gold tower and has twelve people in his company. He doesn’t run a corporation of hundreds of thousands of people he employs and takes care of. He ran a company of twelve people! When you direct a film you have seven different unions all wanting different things, you have to find consensus with all of them, and you have to get them moving in the same direction. He’s never had to do any of that kind of stuff. I just look at it and I laugh when I see him say “Hollywood elite.” Hollywood elite? I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, Donald Trump has a star on Hollywood Boulevard! f*** you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 07:05 PM) Awesome Trump rant by George Clooney. Worth a read: That is seriously awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 25, 2017 -> 12:42 AM) Trump said we have a great country, so he must have already made it great again. I wonder if it was OK to kneel last season. Uh oh. Chiefs Justin Houston took a knee to pray today not protest. Made it public with statements about the power of prayer. Uh oh. Many Americans aren't gonna like hearing about praying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 10:22 PM) Uh oh. Chiefs Justin Houston took a knee to pray today not protest. Made it public with statements about the power of prayer. Uh oh. Many Americans aren't gonna like hearing about praying. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Buried under Trump's endless whining about NFL players is a new and expanded travel ban. Chad, North Korea and Venezuela added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 “How about the irony of, ‘Free speech is fine if you’re a neo-Nazi chanting hate slogans, but free speech is not allowed to kneel in protest?'” Kerr added. “No matter how many times a football player says, ‘I honor our military, but I’m protesting police brutality and racial inequality,’ it doesn’t matter. Nationalists are saying, ‘You’re disrespecting our flag.’ Well, you know what else is disrespectful to our flag? Racism. And one’s way worse than the other.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 24, 2017 -> 04:39 PM) I think I agree. The anthem has to go cause of all the protests. Also I disagree with Rock. Today's amped up protests are because of what Trump said. They didn't all of a sudden get hundreds of players to protest cause of the initial issue. Disagree all you want. They may be showing more solidarity in reaction to the awful, pathetic tweets from Trump but the purpose of the protest is still the same. Racial inequality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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