Kyyle23 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Breaking right now that Trumps other former campaign manager George Papadopoulos is pleading guilty to making false statements to the FBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Well, now we know why Roger Stone melted down last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 09:26 AM) Breaking right now that Trumps other former campaign manager George Papadopoulos is pleading guilty to making false statements to the FBI specifically over Russian connections also https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-former...ia=twitter_page In addition to Manafort and Gates, Mueller’s team is also believed to have sufficient information to indict Mike Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser. Edited October 30, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) lmao Sorry, but this is years ago, before Paul Manafort was part of the Trump campaign. But why aren't Crooked Hillary & the Dems the focus?????— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 30, 2017 (The indictment specifically mentions "through 2017") ....Also, there is NO COLLUSION!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 30, 2017 Edited October 30, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Mueller's probe has been so airtight. While I believe they probably do have something ready for Flynn, I don't think that source would have actual knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Is it still "commonly agreed" Trump's campaign didn't collude with Russia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Trump asking why the focus is on Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 09:32 AM) Mueller's probe has been so airtight. While I believe they probably do have something ready for Flynn, I don't think that source would have actual knowledge. True. Flynn could be indicted just on what's already public knowledge along similar lines to Manafort, e.g. not registering as a foreign agent during his time as a Trump campaign adviser and National Security Adviser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 SO if you want to talk about how "everyone knew" with Weinstein, this was a true "everyone knew" situation with Manafort. This stuff is not shocking, it was known his dealings with Ukraine were shady from the get-go as soon as he was hired on. And the reason you don't bring compromised people like that so close to the campaign? You are looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) There is a pretty decent divide in the Republican Party. 80% support Trump, so 1 in 5 don't. One thing that does unite them is Hillary. They all hate her. So when the heat is on, Trump tweets Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. It's like clockwork. Edited October 30, 2017 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) more from the Papadopolus indictment full document here: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/...ent-Offense.pdf Lots of Russian contacts, including up to "Putin's niece (it wasn't, but he thought she was)." Manafort will be the headline, but this guy taking a plea deal over these allegations is the bigger story imo. Edited October 30, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Yeah this Papadopoulous one is eye-opening. There were so many contact points, and the campaign seemed so oblivious that participating would be wrong, and then they hire manafort? It all may end up as something less scandalous but it is getting pretty hot in the kitchen. Especially with Manafort. This dude is not scooter libby. He ain't a lifelong player. He would sell out his daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 09:49 AM) Yeah this Papadopoulous one is eye-opening. There were so many contact points, and the campaign seemed so oblivious that participating would be wrong, and then they hire manafort? It all may end up as something less scandalous but it is getting pretty hot in the kitchen. Especially with Manafort. This dude is not scooter libby. He ain't a lifelong player. He would sell out his daughter. Thats why he was indicted first. He's going to flip immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 09:54 AM) Thats why he was indicted first. He's going to flip immediately. Papa already did flip, and his indictment is heavy with very direct and explicit attempts at collusion with the Russian government, particularly over HER EMAILS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So this: https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/925012339849654273 Trump was so sure that Putin had the 33k private server deleted emails. When you look at the way this reads, it says that Papadapoulous was told Russia had thousands of Clinton's emails. This is extrapolating, but sure could make you think a conversation happened with Trump where he said Russia has all of her emails and would release them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Trump also said that shortly after his son, son-in-law, and criminally indicted campaign manager knowingly met with Russian agents to discuss the Russian government's efforts to help Trump. Trump fired Comey because he wouldn't stop the Russia investigation and then bragged about it to a Russian spy in a closed-door meeting that the White House didn't even disclose the spy attended. They don't even try to hide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I was listening to Rush on the way in this morning. He seems really convinced that Hillary did a bunch of shady stuff that should get her thrown in jail. This could be the biggest news story we have ever seen. A lot of callers seemed very concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The FBI's interview with Papadopolous occured on Jan. 27th, the same day Trump asked Comey for a loyalty pledge. Could just be a coincidence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 From the Papa indictment: Really curious to know who the "High-Ranking Campaign Official" here is because this looks like such obvious collusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) I was listening to Rush on the way in this morning. He seems really convinced that Hillary did a bunch of shady stuff that should get her thrown in jail. This could be the biggest news story we have ever seen. A lot of callers seemed very concerned. Could you imagine if this were Hillary's campaign people being indicted? It certainly wouldn't have been "years ago" and nothing to do with the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So let's say the best case scenario happens and Trump get arrested for treason. What is the protocol for the policies he has enacted? Do they get rolled back or do they stay as is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 10:06 AM) From the Papa indictment: Really curious to know who the "High-Ranking Campaign Official" here is because this looks like such obvious collusion. this indictment is collusion.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) So let's say the best case scenario happens and Trump get arrested for treason. What is the protocol for the policies he has enacted? Do they get rolled back or do they stay as is? Our system has zero mechanisms for handling this. We'd get a President Pence or, if he were also brought down in this, President Paul Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I doubt it would be Treason, that is such a narrow crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 It really is crazy that they arrested this guy at an airport 3 months ago and there was zero leak. It was found out months later that they raided Manafort's house. Pretty impressive operation from Mueller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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