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One of the key witnesses against Manafort is....Manafort's lawyer.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 30, 2017 -> 05:45 PM)
One of the key witnesses against Manafort is....Manafort's lawyer.

 

 

 

Yeah, he's f***ed.

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For how much the moron in chief tweets, you’d think he knows they don’t expire or disappear. You can’t claim you didn’t know someone when you had him in your inner circle and actually made public comments about him. You just look even dumber.

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The obsession with Fox News is fascinating to me. I saw more tweets yesterday about Fox News than I did the indictments. Meanwhile, every tweet about them gives them more publicity. Every "look at what crazy Tomi Lahren said now!" video just adds to her followers. They can't pay for this type of free pub.

 

Meanwhile, 25% of the country uses TMZ as their one and only news source, maybe that's just as big of a problem?

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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 08:27 AM)
The "sane" one in the room.

 

Back when he was head of DHS, he advocated for allowing "somewhere between 0 and 1" refugees into the country a year and helped kick off the disgusting actions ICE and CBP have been taking this year. He's just as awful as everyone else in the administration.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 07:58 AM)
The obsession with Fox News is fascinating to me. I saw more tweets yesterday about Fox News than I did the indictments. Meanwhile, every tweet about them gives them more publicity. Every "look at what crazy Tomi Lahren said now!" video just adds to her followers. They can't pay for this type of free pub.

 

Meanwhile, 25% of the country uses TMZ as their one and only news source, maybe that's just as big of a problem?

 

I think this is a bit disingenous to as why people are focusing on fox. It's not "ha, look at the stupid people!"

 

Fox, and specifically fox and friends and then hannity, have become a tell for what Trump will start tweeting angrily about. Everyone knows the president watches it, and so when major news around the investigation into the president drops and they are covering emojis it just underscores that dynamic. It is for all intents and purposes state media with Trump in office.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 09:07 AM)
I think this is a bit disingenous to as why people are focusing on fox. It's not "ha, look at the stupid people!"

 

Fox, and specifically fox and friends and then hannity, have become a tell for what Trump will start tweeting angrily about. Everyone knows the president watches it, and so when major news around the investigation into the president drops and they are covering emojis it just underscores that dynamic. It is for all intents and purposes state media with Trump in office.

He literally live tweets fox and friends every morning. Its pretty pathetic.

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I hate lost cause-ism so much. If nothing else, for how it so effectively promotes those who were wrong to heroes and those who were right to after thoughts.

 

There were southerners, slaves and free, who went to fight for union and should be lionized for their conviction and bravery. Generals like Winfield Scott (well-known, for sure, but less for his civil war decision to fight for union) to George Henry Thomas who fought for the north and became excommunicated from his family for it.

 

John Logan isn't revered enough. He fought for the right side, he fought for right values in office post civil war. We have Logan Circle and statue in grant park, but he's not at the tip of the tongue.

 

History-erasing lost causers.

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Ta-Nehisi Coates had a pretty good twitter thread (ugh) this morning laying out just how wrong Kelly's ideas on the Confederacy, slavery and compromise are and how pervasive white supremacist ideology can be. Starts here:

 

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/925289478943633408

 

 

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QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 09:07 AM)
I think this is a bit disingenous to as why people are focusing on fox. It's not "ha, look at the stupid people!"

 

Fox, and specifically fox and friends and then hannity, have become a tell for what Trump will start tweeting angrily about. Everyone knows the president watches it, and so when major news around the investigation into the president drops and they are covering emojis it just underscores that dynamic. It is for all intents and purposes state media with Trump in office.

 

I understand the state media point, but there is a good portion of "ha, look at the stupid people!" too.

 

It's crazy because all it does is help Trump and his narratives of everyone and the media being against us. I guess it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 31, 2017 -> 10:03 AM)
I understand the state media point, but there is a good portion of "ha, look at the stupid people!" too.

 

It's crazy because all it does is help Trump and his narratives of everyone and the media being against us. I guess it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

 

Every criticism of Trump or Fox news apparently helps trump. But his approval rating before monday dropped to 32%.

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It's also people pointing out where a substantial portion of the country gets their (dis)information from. Conservative media has spent decades hammering home the idea that you cannot trust anyone but them. Everyone else is part of a grand conspiracy who's lying to you, who is an enemy that must be crushed and defeated.

 

Trumpism is the end result of that ideological push that goes back at least as far as the Birchers and has now taken over a substantial portion of the GOP.

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