Quin Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Government is also going to reportedly seize Once Upon a Time in Shaolin from Martin Shkreli. Today is a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Reuters: Prosecutors say Flynn was told by the senior member of Trump transition team to reach out to other countries to influence the U.N. vote to delay or defeat the resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 White House already saying he's an Obama administration official, nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) What's the difference legally? Frankly if it was as a candidate I would assume it's more likely to get rolled into the illegal hacking of the emails themselves which could be criminal under the computer fraud and abuse act, during the transition there could be reasonable motions to begin the foreign relationships prior to becoming president. OTOH, during transition could also have been the communication to undercut the sanctions being put in place during Obama administration. That part I have no idea if is even criminal, so it would largely result on it being considered politically terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Trump's former national security adviser is being referred to as a "former Obama administration official" by Trump's team, and the WH bizarrely seems to think this is the one possible charge against Flynn and doesn't reach anyone within the White House. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Please tweet, please tweet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 10:48 AM) We should start seeing a ton of breaking news alerts on Fox regarding Hillary's emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Trump's former national security adviser is being referred to as a "former Obama administration official" by Trump's team, and the WH bizarrely seems to think this is the one possible charge against Flynn and doesn't reach anyone within the White House. Okay. Obama warned Trump about Flynn. That makes it even more hilarious. But his base believes everything out of his mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) Please tweet, please tweet.... They are probably playing pass the baton to keep it away from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 "Transition team" is still far different from campaign coordination, at least in my eyes. That is still far more scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 They have the votes, but they're on their way to losing their President. Think I'd rather have the President and them not have the tax votes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) "Transition team" is still far different from campaign coordination, at least in my eyes. That is still far more scary. Still a Logan Act violation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) Please tweet, please tweet.... I would imagine his phone has been taken away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 How cool would it be to see Trump at a press conference drink a shot of poison like that war criminal did the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) How cool would it be to see Trump at a press conference drink a shot of poison like that war criminal did the other day. Trump is too narcissistic to take that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Kushner Is Said to Have Ordered Flynn to Contact Russia Now that the retired general has pleaded guilty, the president's son-in-law could be one of the next dominoes to fall. Former national security adviser Michael Flynn's guilty plea Friday for lying to the FBI is alarming news for Donald Trump. But the first person it's likely to jeopardize will be the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether. That is relevant now because one of Flynn’s lies to the FBI was when he said that he never asked Russia's ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak, to delay the vote for the U.N. Security Council resolution. The indictment released today from the office of special prosecutor Robert Mueller describes this lie: "On or about December 22, 2016, Flynn did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution." At the time, the U.N. Security Council resolution on Israeli settlements was a big deal. Even though the Obama administration had less than a month left in office, the president instructed his ambassador to the United Nations to abstain from a resolution, breaking a precedent that went back to 1980 when it came to one-sided anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) Never forget that Mitch McConnell knew. And blocked disclosure McConnell, more than anyone else, is responsible for the mess we're in, and not just with Trump. Edited December 1, 2017 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Does the fact that Flynn is only pleading guilty to something of a lesser charge then say, espionage, indicate that there isn't going to be as extreme ramifications as we think coming to Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 No, that's how these sort of deals work. They're charging him with something fairly minimal, but the plea agreement specifically says "this isn't all that we know." Flynn is well aware and I'm sure discussions included numerous other charges they were ready to bring if he didn't cooperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) No, that's how these sort of deals work. They're charging him with something fairly minimal, but the plea agreement specifically says "this isn't all that we know." Flynn is well aware and I'm sure discussions included numerous other charges they were ready to bring if he didn't cooperate. I suspect they are using his son as a pawn here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 02:01 PM) I suspect they are using his son as a pawn here. his son just tweeted some Trump Jr-esque type incriminating stuff. Everything i have read has indicated Sr's main goal was taking heat off Jr, because they know that kidnapping charge would be really bad for the both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 01:49 PM) No, that's how these sort of deals work. They're charging him with something fairly minimal, but the plea agreement specifically says "this isn't all that we know." Flynn is well aware and I'm sure discussions included numerous other charges they were ready to bring if he didn't cooperate. Okay so the fact that he is even being offered such a lesser charge against him proves that whatever he can give Mueller must be f***ing juicy otherwise he would have been in jail for the rest of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 1, 2017 -> 09:03 PM) his son just tweeted some Trump Jr-esque type incriminating stuff. Everything i have read has indicated Sr's main goal was taking heat off Jr, because they know that kidnapping charge would be really bad for the both of them Careful, I've seen a fake Flynn Jr. twitter account being passed around. Something about "Dad is a good guy, got caught up with bad people." The real account doesn't have any post for the last few days (unless what you're referring to was deleted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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