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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 22, 2017 -> 12:33 PM)
Alex Jones will soon be broadcasting his show from atop Trump Tower in Chicago. Seems appropriate. I'm sure the #fakenews media will have something to say, but this guy is legit. Sandy Hook was an Obama production.

 

Hopefully he jumps

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See, the American people are not giving Trump a fair chance. The MSM only focuses on the negative...every day, there are thousands of comments online wishing heart attacks and assassinations. Back when I was growing up, we used to respect the president, regardless of his political party. Like during the Eisenhower years, when we still had separate but equal education. Fight back! Donate today.

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He's this racist.

Late to his own meeting and waving a sheet of numbers, President Trump stormed into the Oval Office one day in June, plainly enraged.

 

Five months before, Mr. Trump had dispatched federal officers to the nation’s airports to stop travelers from several Muslim countries from entering the United States in a dramatic demonstration of how he would deliver on his campaign promise to fortify the nation’s borders.

 

But so many foreigners had flooded into the country since January, he vented to his national security team, that it was making a mockery of his pledge. Friends were calling to say he looked like a fool, Mr. Trump said.

 

According to six officials who attended or were briefed about the meeting, Mr. Trump then began reading aloud from the document, which his domestic policy adviser, Stephen Miller, had given him just before the meeting. The document listed how many immigrants had received visas to enter the United States in 2017.

 

More than 2,500 were from Afghanistan, a terrorist haven, the president complained.

 

Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.

 

Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.

 

As the meeting continued, John F. Kelly, then the secretary of homeland security, and Rex W. Tillerson, the secretary of state, tried to interject, explaining that many were short-term travelers making one-time visits. But as the president continued, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Miller turned their ire on Mr. Tillerson, blaming him for the influx of foreigners and prompting the secretary of state to throw up his arms in frustration. If he was so bad at his job, maybe he should stop issuing visas altogether, Mr. Tillerson fired back.

 

Tempers flared and Mr. Kelly asked that the room be cleared of staff members. But even after the door to the Oval Office was closed, aides could still hear the president berating his most senior advisers.

 

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, denied on Saturday morning that Mr. Trump had made derogatory statements about immigrants during the meeting.

 

“General Kelly, General McMaster, Secretary Tillerson, Secretary Nielsen and all other senior staff actually in the meeting deny these outrageous claims,” she said, referring to the current White House chief of staff, the national security adviser and the secretaries of state and homeland security. “It’s both sad and telling The New York Times would print the lies of their anonymous ‘sources’ anyway.”

 

While the White House did not deny the overall description of the meeting, officials strenuously insisted that Mr. Trump never used the words “AIDS” or “huts” to describe people from any country. Several participants in the meeting told Times reporters that they did not recall the president using those words and did not think he had, but the two officials who described the comments found them so noteworthy that they related them to others at the time.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/tv-ad-thanks-tru...-203029715.html

New tv ad thanks Trump for bringing back Christmas

 

http://www.ajc.com/news/pennsylvania-homeo...Rt8b2R9yMuCcwM/

Jesus sign offends homeowners association and one person in PA, surely will be tweeted about soon

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/t-announces-thou...-205347737.html

AT&T announces thousands of Christmas layoffs days after $1000 bonus PR move to influence pending merger

 

 

 

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 08:25 PM)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tv-ad-thanks-tru...-203029715.html

New tv ad thanks Trump for bringing back Christmas

 

http://www.ajc.com/news/pennsylvania-homeo...Rt8b2R9yMuCcwM/

Jesus sign offends homeowners association and one person in PA, surely will be tweeted about soon

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/t-announces-thou...-205347737.html

AT&T announces thousands of Christmas layoffs days after $1000 bonus PR move to influence pending merger

I also would like to thank Trump for bringing back Christmas. Say what you want, but I've noticed it this year. Now that Trump said it's OK, Southwest Airlines, store employees, etc., Starbucks have been saying Merry Christmas to me. I've noticed cause I now get to say it back and I like it. I will say for some reason at Midway today people were in s***ty moods. I got yelled at for getting tripped while getting into space No. 31 in the A group on SW and nicked somebody's boot and said, "Sorry." She was furious that I nicked her and she was in space 31 instead of her 35 which I didn't say anything of course as I don't care bout that. Then somebody at the Avis rental place yelled "I was here first!" and I wasn't even trying to go ahead of them. I'm a little puzzled at the Scrooge like behavior today.

But anyway, there was a war on Christmas. I haven't said Merry Christmas to a stranger in years til this Christmas since it's now OK to do so.

Don't discount the P.C. in America. It's very very bad and this is one thing Trump did that was OK.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 06:50 PM)
I also would like to thank Trump for bringing back Christmas. Say what you want, but I've noticed it this year. Now that Trump said it's OK, Southwest Airlines, store employees, etc., Starbucks have been saying Merry Christmas to me. I've noticed cause I now get to say it back and I like it. I will say for some reason at Midway today people were in s***ty moods. I got yelled at for getting tripped while getting into space No. 31 in the A group on SW and nicked somebody's boot and said, "Sorry." She was furious that I nicked her and she was in space 31 instead of her 35 which I didn't say anything of course as I don't care bout that. Then somebody at the Avis rental place yelled "I was here first!" and I wasn't even trying to go ahead of them. I'm a little puzzled at the Scrooge like behavior today.

But anyway, there was a war on Christmas. I haven't said Merry Christmas to a stranger in years til this Christmas since it's now OK to do so.

Don't discount the P.C. in America. It's very very bad and this is one thing Trump did that was OK.

 

 

In the end, the main thing that matters to people is whether their economic situation is improving or deteriorating.

 

Everything else is just window dressing. We can post links to videos of Obama saying "Merry Christmas" (I think there are like 37 of them)...but the Fox News/Limbaugh view on this will prevail for those who want to perceive things through that "culture wars" prism.

 

I'm sure Starbucks hasn't changed a single official company policy since Trump was elected.

 

As far as the misery of air travel these days, that's just par for the course. I travel quite frequently and it has seemingly gotten worse and worse every year the last decade, and I'm lucky enough not to have to deal with US domestic airlines like Spirit, Frontier, United, Delta, US Air, etc., very often.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 06:50 PM)
I also would like to thank Trump for bringing back Christmas. Say what you want, but I've noticed it this year. Now that Trump said it's OK, Southwest Airlines, store employees, etc., Starbucks have been saying Merry Christmas to me. I've noticed cause I now get to say it back and I like it. I will say for some reason at Midway today people were in s***ty moods. I got yelled at for getting tripped while getting into space No. 31 in the A group on SW and nicked somebody's boot and said, "Sorry." She was furious that I nicked her and she was in space 31 instead of her 35 which I didn't say anything of course as I don't care bout that. Then somebody at the Avis rental place yelled "I was here first!" and I wasn't even trying to go ahead of them. I'm a little puzzled at the Scrooge like behavior today.

But anyway, there was a war on Christmas. I haven't said Merry Christmas to a stranger in years til this Christmas since it's now OK to do so.

Don't discount the P.C. in America. It's very very bad and this is one thing Trump did that was OK.

 

The War on Christmas. OK.

 

It is funny ivanka, Eric, and even the Trump hotel in DC tweet happy holidays, just like the con man did in 2010 when Obama was wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. But facts aren't nearly as fun as things made up so there can be fake outraged.

 

Trump has the lowest approval rating of just about any president. Why would his take make more people end their supposed war on the holiday?

 

One of Trumps properties in the early 80s, residents were banned fro putting up Christmas decorations or trees. In 1999, he called the Christmas tree like decorated tree at Trump Tower a holiday tree. He went years on twitter not saying merry Christmas, but happy holidays. Why do you buy anything this guys sells? He is a con.

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Yes, keep in mind, Ivanka converted to Judaism when she married Kushner, that's part of the reason for Trump's historical position.

 

Think about the famous song "Happy Holidays" or how many people wish that to each other...it's NOT because they're afraid to say "Merry Christmas!" it's because Christmas and New Year's are one week apart, so they're just lumped in together so you don't have to make two greetings about each specific holiday. Of course, after Christmas, everyone says "Happy New Year/'s" and not "Happy Holidays," right???

 

I think if you heard a majority of people saying "Happy Holidays" after X-Mas, you'd have a point.

 

And then this whole thing about Starbucks having "neutral" holidays cups so as to respect all religious traditions and beliefs...well, separation of church and state is an integral belief of the Founding Fathers, is it not?

 

 

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 08:18 PM)
The War on Christmas. OK.

 

It is funny ivanka, Eric, and even the Trump hotel in DC tweet happy holidays, just like the con man did in 2010 when Obama was wishing everyone a Merry Christmas. But facts aren't nearly as fun as things made up so there can be fake outraged.

 

Trump has the lowest approval rating of just about any president. Why would his take make more people end their supposed war on the holiday?

 

One of Trumps properties in the early 80s, residents were banned fro putting up Christmas decorations or trees. In 1999, he called the Christmas tree like decorated tree at Trump Tower a holiday tree. He went years on twitter not saying merry Christmas, but happy holidays. Why do you buy anything this guys sells? He is a con.

 

Here's the source for Trump's War on Christmas: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...m=.cba5ed820f97

 

As for why Greg listens, it's because you shout Christmas above a certain frequency and his ears perk up.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 06:50 PM)
I also would like to thank Trump for bringing back Christmas. Say what you want, but I've noticed it this year. Now that Trump said it's OK, Southwest Airlines, store employees, etc., Starbucks have been saying Merry Christmas to me. I've noticed cause I now get to say it back and I like it. I will say for some reason at Midway today people were in s***ty moods. I got yelled at for getting tripped while getting into space No. 31 in the A group on SW and nicked somebody's boot and said, "Sorry." She was furious that I nicked her and she was in space 31 instead of her 35 which I didn't say anything of course as I don't care bout that. Then somebody at the Avis rental place yelled "I was here first!" and I wasn't even trying to go ahead of them. I'm a little puzzled at the Scrooge like behavior today.

But anyway, there was a war on Christmas. I haven't said Merry Christmas to a stranger in years til this Christmas since it's now OK to do so.

Don't discount the P.C. in America. It's very very bad and this is one thing Trump did that was OK.

 

Greg,

 

Ill agree that more people have said Merry Christmas. Definitely not at starbucks though, seeing as that is against their corporate policy. But I do know someone who works at Starbucks who was accosted by a customer because they said Happy Holidays and the customer demanded that the employee say Merry Christmas.

 

Where I have noticed more Merry Christmas is with clients of mine, the ones who will say things like "They jewed me down"or call asking me to explain how they can legally shoot and kill someone. Even though Christmas is one of my favorite holidays, Ive actually stopped saying it because I find the entire idea inane.

 

Youre in the majority Greg, you literally have no idea what it means for there to be a "war" against your beliefs. I literally had someone this month say that the other party "jewed" them down. Has anyone ever used your religion as a negative adjective, while asking you to fix their problem? Imagine that for a second. And then think that the "war" your fighting is the mere fact people arent being forced to say "Merry Christmas" in order to fit in to the majority.

 

But hey, Happy Holidays, sorry if it offends you.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 01:18 AM)
He went years on twitter not saying merry Christmas, but happy holidays. Why do you buy anything this guys sells? He is a con.

Interesting. That's hypocritical of him if what you write is true. All I know is this year for the first time in a very long time, I'm hearing Merry Christmas out of the mouths of strangers to me and that is NEW. And I've enjoyed it. It seems more than a coincidence that Trump has given the OK for it and it's happening.

 

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 02:11 AM)
Yes, keep in mind, Ivanka converted to Judaism when she married Kushner, that's part of the reason for Trump's historical position.

 

Think about the famous song "Happy Holidays" or how many people wish that to each other...it's NOT because they're afraid to say "Merry Christmas!" it's because Christmas and New Year's are one week apart, so they're just lumped in together so you don't have to make two greetings about each specific holiday. Of course, after Christmas, everyone says "Happy New Year/'s" and not "Happy Holidays," right???

 

I think if you heard a majority of people saying "Happy Holidays" after X-Mas, you'd have a point.

 

And then this whole thing about Starbucks having "neutral" holidays cups so as to respect all religious traditions and beliefs...well, separation of church and state is an integral belief of the Founding Fathers, is it not?

True that Obama mentioned God a lot and said Merry Christmas on TV I think. But Trump has called out the PC folks on this and I think it's made a difference.

 

QUOTE (Quin @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 03:20 AM)
Here's the source for Trump's War on Christmas: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...m=.cba5ed820f97

 

As for why Greg listens, it's because you shout Christmas above a certain frequency and his ears perk up.

Trump is obviously a bad president and as bad a person (just my opinion) as any other rich person used to getting his own way cause of his $$$. But I want to give him credit for this one thing. I feel like people are saying "merry christmas" suddenly this year and it's got to be because he's given the lead on this. Cmon Southwest Airlines wouldn't be doing this if there was any chance of backlash.

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 04:50 AM)
Greg,

 

Ill agree that more people have said Merry Christmas. Definitely not at starbucks though, seeing as that is against their corporate policy. But I do know someone who works at Starbucks who was accosted by a customer because they said Happy Holidays and the customer demanded that the employee say Merry Christmas.

 

Where I have noticed more Merry Christmas is with clients of mine, the ones who will say things like "They jewed me down"or call asking me to explain how they can legally shoot and kill someone. Even though Christmas is one of my favorite holidays, Ive actually stopped saying it because I find the entire idea inane.

 

Youre in the majority Greg, you literally have no idea what it means for there to be a "war" against your beliefs. I literally had someone this month say that the other party "jewed" them down. Has anyone ever used your religion as a negative adjective, while asking you to fix their problem? Imagine that for a second. And then think that the "war" your fighting is the mere fact people arent being forced to say "Merry Christmas" in order to fit in to the majority.

 

But hey, Happy Holidays, sorry if it offends you.

Good post. Maybe it was Duncan Donuts instead of Starbucks. But I've gotten "Merry Christmas" at several stores. BTW I can't remember the last time I initiated a "Merry Christmas" to a stranger. Even this year I've only returned the greeting after it was given to me. I am too frozen by PC myself to dare say Merry Christmas to somebody. I've been trained to fear the repercussions from saying Merry Christmas to some stranger. Because that would be implying I believe they are Christian and they might be anything but Christian. I could receive a reply of "How dare you say Merry Christmas to me when you don't know I recognize Christmas!" So I am not that stupid to every say Merry Christmas to a stranger unless they offer it first.

Now if I worked at Starbucks and they made me say Happy Holidays after taking somebody's money, I'd resign. I'd rather not be forced to give a greeting.

How dare your clients say "they jewed me down." That's disgusting and I can honestly say I've never heard that from anybody and I wouldn't stand for it if somebody said that in conversation with me.

As far as your last line, I'm not offended by somebody saying "Happy holidays" If they say it to me I smile and say thanks. I just like when they say Merry Christmas. Like I said, I gave in to PC and never ever say Merry Christmas to somebody. Why? It's because right now I've been trained by the PC police very well. I'm scared to death to say Merry CHristmas lest the person be an atheist or be in a religion that doesn't celebrate Christmas. To be clear, when they say Merry Christmas to me, I've said it back this season and it feels really weird coming out of my mouth.

Now I also do not say Happy Holidays to anybody ever cause I feel like I'm copping out. So I say nothing. Cept now I'll return the "Merry Christmas."

What you say about the Jewish insults disgusts me. I can't believe grown adult clients would say such a thing. It's not good.

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 25, 2017 -> 11:20 PM)
Good post. Maybe it was Duncan Donuts instead of Starbucks. But I've gotten "Merry Christmas" at several stores. BTW I can't remember the last time I initiated a "Merry Christmas" to a stranger. Even this year I've only returned the greeting after it was given to me. I am too frozen by PC myself to dare say Merry Christmas to somebody. I've been trained to fear the repercussions from saying Merry Christmas to some stranger. Because that would be implying I believe they are Christian and they might be anything but Christian. I could receive a reply of "How dare you say Merry Christmas to me when you don't know I recognize Christmas!" So I am not that stupid to every say Merry Christmas to a stranger unless they offer it first.

Now if I worked at Starbucks and they made me say Happy Holidays after taking somebody's money, I'd resign. I'd rather not be forced to give a greeting.

How dare your clients say "they jewed me down." That's disgusting and I can honestly say I've never heard that from anybody and I wouldn't stand for it if somebody said that in conversation with me.

As far as your last line, I'm not offended by somebody saying "Happy holidays" If they say it to me I smile and say thanks. I just like when they say Merry Christmas. Like I said, I gave in to PC and never ever say Merry Christmas to somebody. Why? It's because right now I've been trained by the PC police very well. I'm scared to death to say Merry CHristmas lest the person be an atheist or be in a religion that doesn't celebrate Christmas. To be clear, when they say Merry Christmas to me, I've said it back this season and it feels really weird coming out of my mouth.

Now I also do not say Happy Holidays to anybody ever cause I feel like I'm copping out. So I say nothing. Cept now I'll return the "Merry Christmas."

What you say about the Jewish insults disgusts me. I can't believe grown adult clients would say such a thing. It's not good.

 

Greg.

 

People arent going to verbally attack you for saying Merry Christmas. More likely the person who is offended will remain silent and politely say it back. You call it the "PC" police, but again, isnt it really just people informing you that maybe you should be aware of what "other" people feel like. How is it even possible to say that there is a "war" on Christmas, when Santa is still at malls, when the Daley Center has a 'Christmas" tree, it has a Christkindelmarket (spelling and there is actually was a second one near Wrigley this year).

 

The idea that there ever was a "war on Christmas" is at best disingenuous and at worst its just a cover for blatantly trying to attack minority religions. Next time when you think about the idea that the majority religion in America is under attack, imagine for a second what it may be like to be a "minority" religion.

 

I will say that one day it would be nice to live in a county where you could say "Happy whateverthef*** you believe in" and not worry that either party would be offended.

 

 

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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 07:15 AM)
Greg.

 

People arent going to verbally attack you for saying Merry Christmas. More likely the person who is offended will remain silent and politely say it back. You call it the "PC" police, but again, isnt it really just people informing you that maybe you should be aware of what "other" people feel like. How is it even possible to say that there is a "war" on Christmas, when Santa is still at malls, when the Daley Center has a 'Christmas" tree, it has a Christkindelmarket (spelling and there is actually was a second one near Wrigley this year).

 

The idea that there ever was a "war on Christmas" is at best disingenuous and at worst its just a cover for blatantly trying to attack minority religions. Next time when you think about the idea that the majority religion in America is under attack, imagine for a second what it may be like to be a "minority" religion.

 

I will say that one day it would be nice to live in a county where you could say "Happy whateverthef*** you believe in" and not worry that either party would be offended.

I dream of America where you could (I won't; like I said I'm trained well and will never go there again) say "Merry Christmas" and the other person could laugh politely and say "Thank you," back to you, then quickly say in an equally friendly tone, "I actually am Jewish and celebrate Hannukah." And then I smile and say well I certainly wish you a happy Hannukah and we both feel good and go on our merry ways. Or vice versa and a person who is Jewish says Happy Hannukah to me and i say, "Thank you, but I celebrate Christmas" and we both smile and chat and go on our merry ways.

 

Instead, I can only imagine the backlash in saying Merry Christmas to somebody who is an atheist or another religion that does not recognize Christmas or Happy Hannukah to somebody who does not celebrate Hannukah. Do you realize how PC the world is? Like I said, Midway Airport today was full of raging angry people who just wanted an excuse to scrap with somebody. there was no holiday spirit in the air, just anger. Trump is the first person to take this on by the horns and tell people to say Merry Christmas.

 

By the way, I'm all for ending Christmas as a gift giving extravaganza. Christmas has little to no religious meaning in the secular world anymore. You can't imagine the spoiled kids I saw this Christmas accepting gift after gift, NFL and NHL jersey after jersey and I yes saw some signs of brattiness of the kids wanting more more more. It's become a ridiculous gift giving extravaganza (I know gifts have been given for years but I feel like part of being a truly entitle Millenial was being showered with so many gifts year after year.

I feel each kid in a family should be given one gift in terms of a fun game or toy and some clothes and the family unit take part in a volunteer project instead, then if they are Christian, go to church and worship the true meaning of the holiday. Yes I can say the highlight of Christmas for me was church, the music and the excellent homily from the pastor. I'm sick of the gifts and spoiling the kids year after year with gift after gift. How bout change the culture. Yeah right. Chrstmas is 85 percent gift giving/hoarding and 15 percent religious (taking into consideration the amount of people who believe at all and if they believe the fact they do something about it on Xmas Day). Do any of you agree with me at the gluttony and monstrocity of a gift giving holiday it has become now that more and more people do not believe and/or practice faith??

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 26, 2017 -> 12:35 AM)
I dream of America where you could (I won't; like I said I'm trained well and will never go there again) say "Merry Christmas" and the other person could laugh politely and say "Thank you," back to you, then quickly say in an equally friendly tone, "I actually am Jewish and celebrate Hannukah." And then I smile and say well I certainly wish you a happy Hannukah and we both feel good and go on our merry ways. Or vice versa and a person who is Jewish says Happy Hannukah to me and i say, "Thank you, but I celebrate Christmas" and we both smile and chat and go on our merry ways.

 

Instead, I can only imagine the backlash in saying Merry Christmas to somebody who is an atheist or another religion that does not recognize Christmas or Happy Hannukah to somebody who does not celebrate Hannukah. Do you realize how PC the world is? Like I said, Midway Airport today was full of raging angry people who just wanted an excuse to scrap with somebody. there was no holiday spirit in the air, just anger. Trump is the first person to take this on by the horns and tell people to say Merry Christmas.

 

By the way, I'm all for ending Christmas as a gift giving extravaganza. Christmas has little to no religious meaning in the secular world anymore. You can't imagine the spoiled kids I saw this Christmas accepting gift after gift, NFL and NHL jersey after jersey and I yes saw some signs of brattiness of the kids wanting more more more. It's become a ridiculous gift giving extravaganza (I know gifts have been given for years but I feel like part of being a truly entitle Millenial was being showered with so many gifts year after year.

I feel each kid in a family should be given one gift in terms of a fun game or toy and some clothes and the family unit take part in a volunteer project instead, then if they are Christian, go to church and worship the true meaning of the holiday. Yes I can say the highlight of Christmas for me was church, the music and the excellent homily from the pastor. I'm sick of the gifts and spoiling the kids year after year with gift after gift. How bout change the culture. Yeah right. Chrstmas is 85 percent gift giving/hoarding and 15 percent religious (taking into consideration the amount of people who believe at all and if they believe the fact they do something about it on Xmas Day). Do any of you agree with me at the gluttony and monstrocity of a gift giving holiday it has become now that more and more people do not believe and/or practice faith??

 

But it’s great for GDP growth!

 

In all seriousness, have you even read once online of someone actually being attacked for saying Merry Christmas to another person? Honestly, I have never even thought about it. And if I did, I think I would be more annoyed that people were ostentatiously going out of their way to wish a Merry Christmas to the point where I would probably identify the majority as overbearing Trump voters. So I’d probably just say Happy Festivus or Happy FBI/J Edgar Hoover Celebration Day back if they were too obvious in their political zeal.

 

The volunteer thing is fine, as long as you (meaning the country) doesn’t force everyone to participate. (As an aside, you should watch Captain Fantastic and see how the father in that movie deals with the Christmas issue, and the polarizing effect on his kids).

 

Here in China, 95% celebrate by buying discounted goods online or going out to eat without having a clue about the meaning of the actual holiday.

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